Welcome to NexusFi: the best trading community on the planet, with over 150,000 members Sign Up Now for Free
Genuine reviews from real traders, not fake reviews from stealth vendors
Quality education from leading professional traders
We are a friendly, helpful, and positive community
We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts
We are here to help, just let us know what you need
You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community. It's free for basic access, or support us by becoming an Elite Member -- see if you qualify for a discount below.
-- Big Mike, Site Administrator
(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)
Well, the honest truth is that as lucrative as it can be, I would never recommend it to someone. And even though I like to day trade, I plan to hole away money in longer term investments, and swing trade as well. A lot of the people that do this and get somewhere give it all back, there are only two tiers of traders above that level: the ones that still have losing streaks but manage it well, and the ones that just don't lose much at all. That really is almost a stratospheric level of skill and self-knowledge, and most people don't even know that is what it takes. This whole thing has been a quest of the whole self, not just a hobby, or a career opportunity. So I can see why there is a stigma. People are intimidated by the challenge, and people that are arrogant enough to not be intimidated going in get their asses handed to them. Simple as that.
Look at all the negativity in the comments to this yt clip (especially a few years back)
One guy said that he has some friends that are brokers and they said that eventually everyone blows up and virtually no one makes money. How's that supposed to make a new trader feel lol?
Everyone has an opinion, that's why I say to only listen to those who make money consistently. Think about it, if 95% lose then just about everyone is going to say it's a crap shoot. A lot of the salt comes from everyone and their brother losing their money during the last stock market crash. Most people don't even realize you can use a stop loss, isn't that ridiculous?
When I told my grandma I was getting into trading she didn't understand what I was saying until I mentioned the stock market. She then blurted out, interrupting me, that there's no money in that lol. She passed away a few years ago, but I learned later that she had lost money in the market years before I was born. What I'm getting at is that typically just about everyone, at one point in their life, dabbles in the markets when they get some disposable money they want to put to work, and inevitably they'll have a bad experience. It only takes one bad experience to taint someones perspective forever and most of the time they simply won't trust the markets again. They won't give it another chance, they don't believe in paying for education. That's my two cents.
R.I.P. Joseph Bach (Itchymoku), 1987-2018.
Please visit this thread for more information.
Also the average person doesn't have the capacity to trade. Mentally and Financially.
The general direction of the market is up, if you buy an index and hold it for the best part of your life it will be the best investment you can make. It is also not as stressful as day trading.
Another issue people have is they tie work and time to money. To generate real wealth you have to break that bond. The biggest reason is your time is finite. Also I believe that this is one reason people like day trading, it is the activity and the ability to say 'I did this'. That mentality is a great hindrance to wealth creation. Money makes money, you can make money, but if you let your money work for you it will generate far more then your time can.
I have found psychology in trading to be huge. Method isn't that important imo (after all, so many great traders have so many different approaches... if it was that important the great traders would all be using the same or similar " perfect" method), use Earl's method or don't use it. Over time my ability to read market behaviour has increased quite a bit, I've incorporated orderflow and my pattern recognition is way better and yet I am not really that much better PL wise, because of the mind I bring to the table. Compare this to a couple of backtests I did in forext with a simple " buy breakouts, fade ranges" with just price and volume, I was profitable over pretty much every single test with a few hundred trades per test because I could jsut fast-forward time and I didnt give a damn about results. I think the big lesson from mr Earl is not his methodology but his mindset. Whenever risk and emotions come into play the inner monkey takes over and we do stupid things. Mental preparation and meditation is helping me the most right now.
Understanding yourself is just as important as understanding markets.