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@SMCJB - Thanks for the kind words. I mistakenly thought the Ask Me Anything thread was deleted when I stopped being a site sponsor, but it was just closed by @Big Mike . It can be found here:

@ZB23 - Thanks for the mention. You mention Ivan S., the 2023 World Cup winner. He came to Cleveland a few years back for a week of one on one training with me. All together, I've taught or consulted with 8? trading contest trophy winners over the years.

@Analytic - My experience is different than what you describe, but different views is what makes a market. I hope you find success in your approach.

Happy New Year everyone. Go Browns and Wolverines!


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@SMCJB - Thanks for the kind words. I mistakenly thought the Ask Me Anything thread was deleted when I stopped being a site sponsor, but it was just closed by @Big Mike . It can be found here:

@ZB23 - Thanks for the mention. You mention Ivan S., the 2023 World Cup winner. He came to Cleveland a few years back for a week of one on one training with me. All together, I've taught or consulted with 8? trading contest trophy winners over the years.

@Analytic - My experience is different than what you describe, but different views is what makes a market. I hope you find success in your approach.

Happy New Year everyone. Go Browns and Wolverines!

I should have qualified my statement, I meant to say day trading vendors. Longer term trading that uses a portfolio of automated strategies along with a process for strategy selection and testing is in a different category.

Courses given by traders who have won multiple 3rd party audited trading contests like Kevin Davey and Andrea Unger can certainly help retail traders develop a systematic trading process that is more "robust".

However there is an element of survivorship bias (i.e luck) in winning these contests. Unger admitted that he takes on way more risk when he trades in a contest compared to the risk he takes in his personal trading accounts.
The traders who win this contests don't win every year because the year has to align very well with their asset selection, strategy selection, and strategy parameter selection for them to do well in a contest,
That's where the element of luck comes in. Obviously there is an element of skill as well since most traders who enter trading contests don't win.


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I am new here and this is my first question, I have been trading for about 2 years now with less experience in trading on the futures market S&P 500. I am looking for a (TRADING COURSE), or a mentor Please any recommendation. And how much is the course or the mentor
I really need help.




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I am new here and this is my first question, I have been trading for about 2 years now with less experience in trading on the futures market S&P 500. I am looking for a (TRADING COURSE), or a mentor Please any recommendation. And how much is the course or the mentor
I really need help.


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I am new here and this is my first question, I have been trading for about 2 years now with less experience in trading on the futures market S&P 500. I am looking for a (TRADING COURSE), or a mentor Please any recommendation. And how much is the course or the mentor
I really need help.


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Kevin Davey:

I am familiar with Kevin Davey. I believe he won the World Cup Championships of Futures Trading once. Criterion #2 doesn't really apply to him, because I consider him a teacher and not an institution. If there were other instructors, I might consider him a school. Furthermore, if he did run a school, I would have to relent on this criterion, because he meets Criteria 1, 2, and 4. An engineering degree is an academically rigorous endeavor.

All in all, I would recommend him. However, I wouldn't take his course because he focuses strictly on TradeStation's EasyLanguage. However, I'm sure there are some principles that I could glean from his course.

Pete Hamby:

I actually was a student of Pete's. His price tag may be a bit pricey for many at $4,500. For me, it's on the slightly lower-end as far as what I have paid for courses previously. Pete's sessions are 1-on-1 and he emphasizes paper trading. His sessions entail scrutinizing your previous paper trades and offering blunt critiques. There are so many spread permutations that exist for traders to exploit.

To answer your question, I can only highlight the people I have engaged in the past.

Jonathan Rose:

I purchased courses from him when he ran the site ActiveDayTrader, which is now MastersInTrading. I started off with the Bond Boot Camp, then I upgraded to his Apex Program. When he transitioned over to MastersInTrading, Iost my life-time membership. But I was able to keep the courses and tools I purchased under ActiveDayTrader. Jonathan was a floor trader in the NQ pit, then in Bonds.

Charlie Cochran:

Charlie Cochran partnered with Peter Nannis to create CNFT (Cochran and Nannis Futures Trading). Cochran was a professional trader and was instrumental in building volume profile which was a variant of Peter Steidlmayer's Market Profile. To put it another way, he added the volume component to Market Profile. The man was a volume profile wizard. He could call unfair highs and unfair lows premarket damn near to a tee. Unfortunately, Cochran passed four months into my membership. After he passed, the analysis that Peter gave just wasn't as good as Charlie's.

In all fairness, Nannis is a developer and he collaborated with Cochran to create the software that assisted us in generating signals. CNFT is defunct now. Its successor is Bluewater Trading Solutions. There are some videos of Cochran's analysis there.

Quantinsti/Quantra:

I recommend them to learn quantitative trading. I completed Quantinsti's EPAT program and I have purchased several ala carte courses from Quantra.

The Python Quants:

TPQ is run by Dr. Yves Hilpisch. I have not enrolled in this course. I plan to do that in the future. I learned about Hilpisch, because he is a lecturer in the Quantinsti's EPAT program.

TastyTrade:

They have a wealth of content. And best of all, it's free. However, its corpus lacks structure.

Hi,

Do you remember the teaching of Charles Cochran?


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Hi,

Do you remember the teaching of Charles Cochran?

I remember the gist, but not the specifics. His teaching was centered mainly around Volume Profile. Cochran teamed with a software developer/trader named Peter Nannis to create software to assist traders in trading Volume Profile. After Cochran died, Peter continued to run the room. But the analysis wasn't quite, which was expected, because Cochran came up with the idea of adding volume to Market Profile.

Peter has since renamed the going concern from CNFT (Cochran Nannis Futures Trading) to Bluewater Trading.

CNFT:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/@cnfuturestrading4391[/yt]

Bluewater Trading:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/@bluewatertrading[/yt]


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