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trend train
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
 
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Hi everyone

I have an issue with take profit trader firm.

They seem to consider ATM bots as algo trading bots.

I used advance atm dynamic bot since NT8 atm is very simple and fixed.

I open all trades manually but it gets managed by atm bot.

Now ninjatrader refuse to integrate 3rd party or even changing their own atm.

Coders confirm it's impossible so the atm bot looks like strategy.

TPT decided to not understand it's it atm bot not algo trading bot.

Did anyone face such an issue and how did you solve it?

Do you know any firm that allow atm bot?


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 jlabtrades 
San Diego, CA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Tradovate & TopStepX
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trend train View Post
Hi everyone

I have an issue with take profit trader firm.

They seem to consider ATM bots as algo trading bots.

I used advance atm dynamic bot since NT8 atm is very simple and fixed.

I open all trades manually but it gets managed by atm bot.

Now ninjatrader refuse to integrate 3rd party or even changing their own atm.

Coders confirm it's impossible so the atm bot looks like strategy.

TPT decided to not understand it's it atm bot not algo trading bot.

Did anyone face such an issue and how did you solve it?

Do you know any firm that allow atm bot?

TPT has been pretty upfront and clear they don't allow any types of bots, they don't care if its an algo bot, ATM bot, or weather bot, they just don't want them. From their rules on their help desk about bots


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Trading bots/Algos
We have seen MILLIONS lost when retail traders try and trade on very small timeframes (hundreds of trades lasting a few seconds), so we DO NOT allow this.

Source: https://takeprofittraderhelp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/15171769361053-Are-the-rules-the-same
This is the page for their "PRO" account which is the 1st funded account in their Test (Simulation trading only) > PRO (Simulation trading, profits can be withdrawn) > PRO+ (Live trading, profits can be withdrawn) phasing of account progression

I do not trade with bots and do not have recommendation for how you to solve this problem with them, but I would suggest you check these other popular firms to see if they allow the bots:
The Futures Desk
Tradeify
BluSky
Topstep


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 planetkill 
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trend train View Post
Hi everyone

I have an issue with take profit trader firm.

They seem to consider ATM bots as algo trading bots.

I used advance atm dynamic bot since NT8 atm is very simple and fixed.

I open all trades manually but it gets managed by atm bot.

Now ninjatrader refuse to integrate 3rd party or even changing their own atm.

Coders confirm it's impossible so the atm bot looks like strategy.

TPT decided to not understand it's it atm bot not algo trading bot.

Did anyone face such an issue and how did you solve it?

Do you know any firm that allow atm bot?

just refactor the ninjascript as an indicator instead of strategy


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trend train
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just refactor the ninjascript as an indicator instead of strategy

This seems an elite level solution. Never thought of it. Many thanks sounds the problem solved I will ask my coder to do that.

Many thanks planetkill


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 planetkill 
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trend train View Post
This seems an elite level solution. Never thought of it. Many thanks sounds the problem solved I will ask my coder to do that.

Many thanks planetkill

No problem! I did something similar where I have my custom ATM ninjascript code within OnBarUpdate(), and set it for the indicator to calc in each tick. I did mine so that when activated, it would move the stop loss automatically by 1 tick below the previous bar


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trend train
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No problem! I did something similar where I have my custom ATM ninjascript code within OnBarUpdate(), and set it for the indicator to calc in each tick. I did mine so that when activated, it would move the stop loss automatically by 1 tick below the previous bar

Nice sounds good to hear other traders using smart dynamic atm system.

I wish you more success and wealth in your

trading.

many thanks for the help.


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