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It seems like it's doctrine that the markets are always changing. Sometimes it's subtle by when they refer to the market as "this market" and sometimes it's obvious by stating "the markets are always changing."

In theory, while there's more technology and more transactions, I don't think the markets have changed. Can a successful trader of the 1800s, 1920s, etc. apply the same strategies and make money today in these markets?

I am curious of everyone's thoughts and hopes this promotes a good discussion.


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It seems like it's doctrine that the markets are always changing. Sometimes it's subtle by when they refer to the market as "this market" and sometimes it's obvious by stating "the markets are always changing."

In theory, while there's more technology and more transactions, I don't think the markets have changed. Can a successful trader of the 1800s, 1920s, etc. apply the same strategies and make money today in these markets?

I am curious of everyone's thoughts and hopes this promotes a good discussion.

MARKETS...
are there tomorrow too!
So I don't think that the base has changed really.
It might be more volume and more volatility - this throws OUT many traders
that are IN the NOISE.
But over all - things have not changed.

Good trades
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The principles of successful stock speculation are based on the supposition that people will continue in the future to make the mistakes that they have made in the past.

-- T F Woodlock

I like that quote. Thank you.


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MARKETS...
are there tomorrow too!
So I don't think that the base has changed really.
It might be more volume and more volatility - this throws OUT many traders
that are IN the NOISE.
But over all - things have not changed.

Good trades
GFIs1

Wouldn't the noise that you're referring to make more trades or force people out because they cannot handle a loss created from the noise?


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Wouldn't the noise that you're referring to make more trades or force people out because they cannot handle a loss created from the noise?

It depends of course on your trading style.
I am only speaking of noise for my 3 to 6h trade on a given day.
Backtested it (while entry time is crucial) and it held.
For every other trader / style it might be very different.

But KNOWING the noise for your trades can help to optimize
the Stops.

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