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 Bvend 
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After swing trading for a couple of years the FX market, 6 Months ago started to sim trade the ES for scalps and decided I want to go live with it. Now I am a customer of IB but through a foreign company and I am charged 500% more commision than the average. For my swing traders I didn't care since I use that company in my country for stock Trading and wanted to have good relations. But for scalping it is a no go. So decided to open an account with Ninjatrader and I have that silly question. I read on the Website that the Initial Margin for ES is 5.060$. Does that mean that with a 20.000$ account you can open barely 4 contracts? Because in IB the initial Margin is 2.0xx and I can open around 8.

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After swing trading for a couple of years the FX market, 6 Months ago started to sim trade the ES for scalps and decided I want to go live with it. Now I am a customer of IB but through a foreign company and I am charged 500% more commision than the average. For my swing traders I didn't care since I use that company in my country for stock Trading and wanted to have good relations. But for scalping it is a no go. So decided to open an account with Ninjatrader and I have that silly question. I read on the Website that the Initial Margin for ES is 5.060$. Does that mean that with a 20.000$ account you can open barely 4 contracts? Because in IB the initial Margin is 2.0xx and I can open around 8.

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CME Overnight for speculators is $5,060. So yeah, 20K account is not quite 4 contracts. But that's a CME thing, not NT specifically.


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I am not talking about overnight but RTH


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I am not talking about overnight but RTH

Then I surmize you are referring to NT Brokerage? NTB quoted me $500 IIRC but as I need overnight I've not worried about that number.


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Their day trading margin requirement for the /ES is $500. Granted the minimum account size is $1,000. Working with a $20,000 account, I would be careful not to leverage myself too aggressively, unless adding to a proven position.


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6E, 6B and GC margins are to be multiplied with X 3
this until the potential of drastic market moves has returned to normal (due to possible Brexit scenario)


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Correction

All products will have 3 X times margin requirement.
I read the announcement too quickly


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