bopwillie 

Gentlemen, "forgiven", and any others who might read this post: I am one of those traders who has purchased many a supposed 'holy grail'. At the tender age of 70, I can tell you for a fact that I have poured out more than 20k to various training-gurus and software engineers over the last 15 years, using today none of what I bought with one exception - TTP. As for the founder of TTP, I have found no one who stayed the course with me any better than the founder of Trade The Plan. If attitude is 90 percent of the battles in life, then Daniel Roe has had the guts and positive attitude to stay the course with me and many other traders alike. He desires that we would be profitable in this difficult business. That attitude permeates every training session and trading day. He is 'extremely cautious' for all who would listen daily. I'll say it again with emphasis - Daniel Roe is Extremely Cautious! He is not some 'gunslinger' trader. Patience is the key with a complete analysis before he enters, as you should be when you put your money on the line. Although I am definitely old enough to be his grandfather, I am not. I am a farmer-trader who appreciates the help of TTP. Let me wish all of you who read this post the very best this business holds for us. It's there; be patient. Grey Feather

they just carashed and burned , what do you tell all the sheep that flushed 8,000 down the toliet .

bopwillie 

forgiven, as I read your post, I thought to myself, "This guy, forgiven, sounds pretty sarcastic." As such, I have no further comment about ANY trading methodology. IMHO, you need lots time and failures with indicators and trading crookeries.

i do they crashed and burned

In a very short period of time, trading software will be integrated with AI. Indicators as we know them will be a thing of the past (as will trading platforms if they don't keep up). Indicators are just simple, generic algorithms.

I uploaded an image of a chart (just price and time) to a LLM and prompted it to create a function (an algorithm) to define what it saw in the image of the chart (an image, i.e., no .csv or .txt of the price/time data points) and then prompted it to extrapolate and predict where the market was going. It said the market (CL in this instance) was going to go down for 9 hours and hit a specific target price. It was wrong as the market went up for 3 hours...

BUT then the market went down and 8 hours and 40 minutes later, CL hit the predicted target price to the tick. It was 20 minutes early. This is going to change trading. The institutions will have to re-engineer their algorithms so that the markets appear to be more random and unpredictable. It could end retail trading.

BUT ALSO I suspect from what I have seen regarding AI, most jobs - particularly jobs that require a university degree(s) like medicine and law and engineering and architec...well, you get it - will be gone. The robots will work the factories and AI will drive the vehicles. Kids are starting to get it and the term FOBO (fear of being obsolete) is becoming a thing. Why go to university and incur a debt when there's no jobs available for slow, overpaid, dimwitted meatbots?

So, Daniel grifting me out of $3k is probably a minor event compared to what's coming and coming soon.

Does this help add some perspective?