shokunin 

I pay more for business class vs flying Ryanair. Both will get me to the destination, but I just like one more than the other and will pay extra for what I like over what I don't like. If prop firms offered a package I liked more, I would pay for it.

100 %

shokunin 

I pay more for business class vs flying Ryanair. Both will get me to the destination, but I just like one more than the other and will pay extra for what I like over what I don't like. If prop firms offered a package I liked more, I would pay for it.

So would you rather pay twice as much for the exact same seat on the same flight?

That's the point I'm making, he was complaining about them reducing the price.

VirtualMark 

So would you rather pay twice as much for the exact same seat on the same flight? That's the point I'm making, he was complaining about them reducing the price.

No - if like for like then I want to pay the least possible.

tr8er 

Lol, no I don't want to pay more and sorry, but these 2 days passing has nothing to do with real trading, it is casino pure, nothing else. And sorry, these evaluations have not a lot to do with any kind of prove. Real prop firms would never give these gamblers an account, but nowadays also these finding firms are called prop form, but have nothing to do with prop firms (just my experience and opinion)

You don't have to pass in 2 days, you can pass in 2 days if you want to. I agree that it's gambling, as these accounts would have to be overleveraged to hit the profit target in 2 days. But I'd rather have the option there, just in case there's a lot of opportunity and I hit the profit target quickly, then I don't have to wait several days to get my funded account.

VirtualMark 

So would you rather pay twice as much for the exact same seat on the same flight? That's the point I'm making, he was complaining about them reducing the price.

I was not complaining the lower price, I was complaining which clowns (and I mean most of these 2 day passing casino guys instead of real traders)
come on board with these reduced prices

shokunin 

No - if like for like then I want to pay the least possible.

I mean, am I missing something here? They did reduce the price a while back, and also made the accounts easier to pass. Today, Topstep looks like a much better place to trade than it was a couple of years back.

They had the two step process back then, minimum trading days, expensive accounts etc. Now they're cheaper and only have a few rules. Even the daily loss is much better as it used to fail the account, but now only stops you out for the day.

Is there something I'm missing? Are Topstep's accounts worse now in some way?

tr8er 

I was not complaining the lower price, I was complaining which clowns (and I mean most of these 2 day passing casino guys instead of real traders) come on board with these reduced prices

I think for some people, they'd rather just fire money at the evals and gamble them to get them passed quickly. Then trade the funded accounts properly. Why spend weeks slowly trading an eval if you can just YOLO a few of them and pass in 2 days?

VirtualMark 

I mean, am I missing something here? They did reduce the price a while back, and also made the accounts easier to pass. Today, Topstep looks like a much better place to trade than it was a couple of years back. They had the two step process back then, minimum trading days, expensive accounts etc. Now they're cheaper and only have a few rules. Even the daily loss is much better as it used to fail the account, but now only stops you out for the day. Is there something I'm missing? Are Topstep's accounts worse now in some way?

I think you missed a post a few back.

They reduced price and made it easier... at the expense of support quality.

We are saying OK fine to do that and we understand and like the choice, but if they also offered a premium support option, we would probably buy it.

VirtualMark 

I think for some people, they'd rather just fire money at the evals and gamble them to get them passed quickly. Then trade the funded accounts properly. Why spend weeks slowly trading an eval if you can just YOLO a few of them and pass in 2 days?

yes in this case you are right, but I'm sure not many of these 2 day passing guys are still there in a year or two and yes I also traded my evaluations differently as the funded-accounts

shokunin 

I think you missed a post a few back. They reduced price and made it easier... at the expense of support quality. We are saying OK fine to do that and we understand and like the choice, but if they also offered a premium support option, we would probably buy it.

Ah yeah I see your point. So it seems that their support has taken a nose dive since they reduced their prices?