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It would be better to pass judgment based on facts and not some sort of resentment.

I don't know anyone who thinks XP is better than Windows 7, unless your hardware is ancient and you don't want to upgrade.

I don't know anyone who thinks Windows 8 was superior to Windows 7. It was hated by everyone.

And now, I don't know anyone who thinks Windows 10 is anything like Windows 8. The feedback is pretty clear from most people, Windows 10 is superior to Windows 7.

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No, no, no ... no resentment. I used MS-DOS (no mouse, no GUI) even before the first Windows (Windows 1.0) was born.

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No, no, no ... no resentment. I used MS-DOS (no mouse, no GUI) even before the first Windows (Windows 1.0) was born.

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So did I. Although I preferred 4dos. I ran my first BBS using Desqview with DOS, 14 nodes and 30GB back in 1992 or so (I was 15).

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So did I. Although I preferred 4dos. I ran my first BBS using Desqview with DOS, 14 nodes and 30GB back in 1992 or so (I was 15).

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Desqview! Ah, the memories....

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Man, the nostalgia. It was incredibly great then. Now, pretty much forgotten, and certainly passed by.

Thanks for that screenshot.

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Great screenshots !!! Those shots show over 10 years of great development and improvement on MS-DOS.

My usage of MS-DOS was at its inception (1981) on IBM PC and PC clones, just a few years after I graduated from the university. There were no PCs during my undergraduate Computer Science studies. It was all IBM (USA), NCR (USA), ICL (UK) mainframe computers. Hmmmmm ... I must be pretty of age now, but not "Old-School". But I did my degree project with PDP-11/70 minicomputer in 1978; and when MS-DOS was born in 1981, I could see all the features of PDP-11 in it.

I expect MS to revive its slogan of "Making It Easy", on its Windows OS; and I can see that in Windows 10.

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@Big Mike or anyone who went through the process..

Did you do a clean install or do an upgrade for Windows 10? If the upgrade; did you have any issues? or degraded performance?

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I decided "What the heck" yesterday, and went ahead with the Windows 10 upgrade. I figured they've done tens of millions of these by now, so it has to be safe.

And indeed it was.

Took about 2 hours altogether. I just did the upgrade and let it rip. I was upgrading from Windows 7.

I'm getting used to the new look now. Basically it's almost the same as 7. There are some of those Windows 8 tile things attached to the Start menu, but they can be modified or removed. The Start menu is well-organized, a little different but understandable. The windows are very slightly different, mainly on the title bars, and they no longer have a border for some reason. Not major.

There was a point right at the end of the process where you can choose "Express Install" or "Customize." I chose Customize so I would know what I was getting into. There are many automatic selections that I did not take, principally about information that would be sent to Microsoft or would be available for advertisers. I'm not paranoid, but I also don't want to be sending info on things like what I type to anyone else. They explain it's all anonymous, and will improve Windows' responsiveness, and I do believe them. But I said No anyway. What the heck, it's mine and I'll just keep it that way.

Also, with the Customize option you get to keep your current default browser (mine is Chrome), instead of going to their new one, called "Edge."

You can change all of this stuff in Settings afterwards if you want to.

I haven't found any problems in the 24 hours I've had it running. It works enough like what I'm used to that there was no question about how to do something. A few things are a little easier, mainly in settings. They have new versions of some of the built-in Windows apps, like the clock, the calculator, Task Manager (which I like better) and probably some that I haven't gotten to yet.

I have so far ignored "Cortana," which is their answer to Apple's Siri, a "digital assistant." Also, it has tablet/phone swiping navigation stuff that I am not using (no touch screen.) I may get into Cortana sometime; right now, I think it's easy to do without. But who knows?

I sort of think that people were relieved to get away from Windows 8, and that was part of the enthusiasm for it. It's sort of a return to 7 in terms of the user experience. Of course, I never departed from 7, so the change is not big for me in that way.

Performance has been fine. It may occasionally be better, but I'm not sure of that. It certainly isn't worse. All my usual stuff, including Chrome and Ninja, and the usual desktop apps -- Word, Excel, etc. -- work fine.

What I've read tells me that it's probably a move forward, and of course they will not maintain Windows 7 or 8 forever, but any major changes are all under the hood as far as I'm concerned. So I am perfectly OK with having done it, and no doubt will know more as I use it more, but there was very little change for me in the things I am using.

I haven't done any Administrator type work in many years, and don't plan ever to again, so I can't address any of that, or get much more technical than just a regular user. It's just me and my desktop. But it's OK for me.

Your mileage, of course, may vary.

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@Big Mike or anyone who went through the process..

Did you do a clean install or do an upgrade for Windows 10? If the upgrade; did you have any issues? or degraded performance?

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a clean install is not recommended, because you don't have a license key. you better do an upgrade first. then you can perform a clean install. or just a reset like I did.


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a clean install is not recommended, because you don't have a license key. you better do an upgrade first. then you can perform a clean install. or just a reset like I did.

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What do you mean by "just a reset"?


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