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Bob and Mike,
Thank you for your thankless work in trying to keep this forum civil. If people simply read and follow the rules clearly laid out for this forum, everyone would be better for it.
The entire back and forth with this gentleman and his YT channel going after Futures.io, Jigsaw Trading and yourselves is tiring, to say the least. All the adults in the room can simply do his or her's research and comparison of the two trading packages, their cost, and support and go from there.
It seems that you and a few of the admins have a personal beef because I read through all 14 pages of this post and did not see a post from Vinny other than the two comments that were deleted due to alleged "self promotion." Why delete them? If they were such. let all see and point it out.
Now,... the screenshots and personal emails that have been added seem to come from a location other than this post and lack context to the full story which has me asking this question. Why not let him talk? then we can hear both sides.
It's not a personal beef, it's simply the truth. I wish the admins would let me tell the whole truth about Vinny Emini and Algobox but they don't want a back and forth argument in this thread it seems.
everyone is welcome to come to my discord room where I will reveal all the info I have on this product although most of it is on my twitter anyways. There is nothing wrong with gathering as much info
as you can on a product. This way you can make a much better decision. If you think the info I present is untrue you are more than welcome to ask me about any of my tweets, youtube videos, or futures.io comments.
FYI: Currently I don't sell any product or service and have never done so previously. Anyone who says otherwise is a complete liar.
I am not questioning your truths. I just believe in transparency and moving this topic off to another location basically side skirts that in itself. Let’s keep this an in an open forum. Bring all parties to table kind of concept. Let everyone talk. No name calling and let’s hear all sides. Seems like this has been going on for long enough as it is. If I was an admin. I would just enable Vinny’s account. We can learn from others; even those we may disagree with.
As to any bias, pro or con, Vinny is just another guy selling something. I have not tried it, and I am skeptical of all large claims by salesmen of trading methods (there are so many of them out there -- and why are they selling something for a living instead of just trading their systems?), but he seems to have the ability to convince some people of his product's value, and they are willing to buy it, which is their choice. I think there is plenty of material on this thread to tell someone if they should be interested or not, and if they are, they should check it out further.
All we get from Vinny and the people he sends here are dumps of advertising material, which is not what we're here for. One such dump is what got him banned, which he will stay.
Frankly, until the recent furor, which was touched off by one of his fans posting his ad copy here, I had not thought of Vinny for years and had to remember who he was. He is the center of the trading universe to some, and just another guy selling another system on the internet to others. Everyone can make up their mind what they think of it, and as the old saying goes, "you pays your money and you takes your choice."
But we don't make this forum available as a selling vehicle.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
when you say 'your truths' you are questioning them which is fine by me. Whenever you try to reasonable with Vinny he just attacks you even harder with more of his lies and insults. There are some people
that you just can't be nice to no matter how much you may want to.
at the risk of being banned I will share an email exchange I just had with him: This will be very eye-opening for you guys:
i said "your truths," because i do not live in your shoes to see and understand where you were coming from. i can say it sounds like there is a lot of history in all this that dates years back.
i do not know about you, but a 'trade off" sounds like it could solve it once and for all. All concerned parties join. Best trader takes the right call their system or platform the best. A battle royale of sort.... and all third party verified of course.
We don't stage competitions and events to provide publicity for someone to sell their product.
Like anyone else, Vinny can thrive or not in the market for trader services. We're not in that market, other than as a provider of a place for reviews.
If his product is great, it will prosper, on its merits. If not, it will perish. Not something we are going to facilitate, either way.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote