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Hi, does anyone know how futures trading is taxed in Australia? Would be great if we had something like the 60/40 cgt/income tax split in the US but not holding my breath.
Can someone please inform me as to the Percent I need to hold out on all made profits in trading the following.... Forex, Stocks,Futures and Options
Does it matter what you trade , as to the percent of taxes you need to withhold for each individual instrument/market or are all instruments/markets taxed the same, and the percent you need to hold out for taxes , comes down to your individual income ?
Are the Taxes calculated as the following ( as an Example ):
Forex = 15%
Options= 20%
Stocks = 25%
Futures = 30%
OR
is it a Set 15%, 20%, 25% taxed on all your profits from trading, no matter what you trade ?
Thanks for the help, just want to make sure I have withheld enough
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
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Equities & Equity Options held for less than 1 year = Short Term Capital Gains = Your Individual Tax Rate (0% to 39.6%)
Equities & Equity Options held longer than 1 year = Long Term Capital Gains = 0% to 20% depending on your Tax Bracket
Most Futures & Futures Option contracts are taxed as Section 1256 Contracts which means that they are taxed 60% at your long term capital gains rates and 40% at you short term capital gains rate no matter what the holding period.
Hence in the highest tax bracket your Section 1256 tax rate is 60% @ 20% + 40% @ 39.6% = 27.84% (prior to the recent tax increases this was only 23%).
Forex I don't know. A quick google search implies that it can be taxed either way depending upon your situation.
On top of this you will also owe 3.8% Net Investment Tax if your AGI is over $200k single/$250k married.
If you own or lease an exchange membership your trading earnings may also be subject to Self Employment Tax's.
Disclaimer. I'm not an accountant, I'm a trader, hence this is only my understanding and while I believe it to be accurate it may be incorrect.
Your post is an exact depiction of the situation that i currently face, but unfortunately i saw that no one replied to your post. So i was wondering if you've figured it out, and if so could you provide me with any guidance and references to the personnel or company you used.
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
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I believe that to deduct costs like that you will need to qualify for trader tax status.
As always Green Trader Tax/Green & Company are an amazing resource for information like this.
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They are my accountant and they do a great job.
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Taxpayers’ trading activity must be substantial, regular, frequent and continuous.
The taxpayer must seek to catch the swings in the daily market movements and profit from these short-term changes rather than profiting from long-term holding of investments.
There's more info on their site.
Disclaimer. I'm not an accountant, I'm a trader, hence this is only my understanding and while I believe it to be accurate it may be incorrect.
As far as the Percentage of Gains from trading ( Stocks, Forex, Options ) , combining all profits and from all instruments traded,
If you made say $10,000 for the year 2014 , would holding 20% ( $2,000 ) be enough to cover your Capital gains tax , or is it more in the 25 - 30% percent range ?
I know about the 60/40 rule, I'm just trying to make sure I apply it correctly, and hold out extra for taxes from here on out , as to not have it come back to bite me Tax time of this year.