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With all due respect. I disagree with this comment. I have found nothing but tranparency and the willingness of the skilled to help the not so skilled at Big Mike's.
I would, however like to hear more about Maria's system and instruction and your thoughts and experiences with it.
I apologize but I am weary of trading coaches that charge large fees just to teach one how to use confluence and confirmation. After all of the searching I did for proper instruction I have had to change emails as a result of all of the sales mails, and remove malware from my laptop.
I'm sure that you, someone who has spent thousands...
would understand anyones apprehension of a high priced trading program.
Please do Maria and myself a favor.
Detail your experiences with her program. Sell her to me.
Check out her trading room if you can on a free trial! You'll see trades all over the place. She'll not be using a trading DOM so you can't see any of her trades (you'll soon know why). Just Be on the trigger to fire off dozens of trades on the 6e and get ready to exit out after she she says she's already out with plus x amount of ticks in amazement.
I have Maria's Order Flow package and before getting it I tried many. I found her package to be affordable in comparison to others but not only that I found that she was willing to spend the time to train you on how to use the tools. That is the purpose of her training/chatroom, not to necessarily be a trade calling room but a training room where you can see first hand how to use the tools you purchased. She is not charging for the room, anyone who has the tools are able to use it. Even though it is not supposed to be a trade calling room she does call trades and you can take them or pass. She is a fast trader so I am not surprised you couldn't follow if you were just in there visiting, if you had the tools you would know the where and why of her trades and wouldn't need to wait for her calls and exits. Just my opinion.
Wow, finally something I can speak to with at least a little experience.
First, I need to correct who ever said Maria's software package was 3k. Unless something has dramatically changed it is slightly under 2k. Not that this is cheap, and not that it should change anyone opinion.
I've spent a lot of hours watching Maria in her room. In my completely novice opinion, she is legit. She does not show her trades but she does call out the entries 90%+ of the time, and the exits as well. Maria makes money almost if not everyday. She also tends not to sleep, or sleep much, as she will email you chart examples marked up at extremely odd hours. Maria takes trades in the pre-market for a lot of different markets.
She charges nothing for running the room and regularly runs weekend bootcamps for 2 hours. Students have to trade using market replay and order flow + market profile. I may not explain this correctly but she trades of the LVA/HVA, pivots, extremes of the profile using order flow as well.
I have not made a cent trading her methodology. I also have not practiced enough or even tried that hard. Mostly, this is procrastination on my part but getting a futures account in BC Canada is a son of a B*tch. Regardless, the issue is more just me not doing it. Not following her calls, not even being ready to try to do so in sim.
Maria is a successful trader in my opinion. She tries to cajole and shove members towards success. I still need to commit more time and just do it. Buying her good order flow and market profile package is not going to transform a single person into a successful trader. Doing what she does is WAY harder than that.
There are no real rules here. They are made up along the way. My experience is that there is nothing solid here. I bought when it was $1600, included life time free room. Promised could buy second machine for half price, no mention of time limit. So after a couple months of use I emailed, was told I could have the half price of original only by Thanksgiving (about two weeks out). Used room a few weeks, got sick of very unprofessional things, like shouting at dog barking in room, the f bomb and cursing continually used, etc... Trades were not clearly called. Some were, others were not. Like most rooms, stops were hit but forgotten when the summary was given. After a couple months of this circus I just quit logging in. Have not missed it one bit. Moved on to a better order flow tool set and better training.
Oh, the boot camps. Well, never when I could attend. Announced on short notice. Then members were belittled for not attending. Belittling was the overall feeling I took away from the "training" which was not inviting, but intimidating.
By the way don't think your initial purchase covers everything. There are many add-ons at more cost. There are no videos to learn from, just "the room" which now is a limited time, not lifetime, with purchase and an outrageous subscription price thereafter. But then as I said, a couple months of it and I had my fill. You couldn't drag me back in there.
Some of the software is nice and has unique functionality. For that reason I used some pieces of it with other things. Until I had an SSD melt down and NT7 renumbered my machine ID.
And just lately, after requesting an update of my machine ID, I was invoiced for $100 for a "reinstall" that had to be scheduled for the tech guy to log into my machine. No more. I'm done. Stay away. No one else tried to get $100 out of me to tweak the new machine ID on software I had paid for.
STAY AWAY! Find something better. As an example, MZPack offers much more bang for the buck in my opinion. They continue to improve and develop at no added cost.
If you really want to learn to trade find someone who knows how, that can teach you to really do it, by and for yourself. Best training I have had to date is from Bill Bluhm, SCFutures. A real nice low key guy who can teach, encourage, and help you understand the market thru a useful combination of elliott waves, fibs, and orderflow.
“the MARKET does not exist for you and me to SPECULATE on” (Kai Whitney).
"THE MARKET exists for commercial, Institutional, professional traders to trade. This is their business place where transactions occur. The purest participants are the commercial traders. ” (Bill Bluhm)
Chuck, while I agree with most of what you are saying, I am not sure your reference about the Mzpack is correct. I first purchased their NT7 license, then I was asked to pay for its NT8 upgrade, then I was asked to pay again for what they called another "major upgrde" so, considering also all the issues I had with the "agile.net" I could not sort out even with NT support, in order to have the package working ... just OK ! .. I decided not to use their package, ie not to continue to cash out of my pocket money for so called "major" upgrades.
"In conclusione": I consider the money I spent for them, just a complete waste of money.