Rrrracer 

Well that escalated quickly LOL. So much for intelligent banter. I'm not here to take sides, prefer listening to both... I guess that's what happens when one gets so firmly entrenched in their process that any counterpoint is unacceptable.

No excuse for being rude. No patience for those who resort to rudeness to defend their position.

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something interesting happened.

Both of those original positions are "valid". What Oz said about subjectivity and the assignment of probability is true. But yeah, that degenerated into something pretty fast.

I was interested that I saw Ed in here begging a question of someone else that he rebutted quit vociferously in his thread. Huh.

You guys have seen it all over the years, I'm sure. It's a good thing some people can hide behind their computers, otherwise there'd probably be a lot more ass kicking going on LOL.