here you go

sharmas

Here are The Stealth line ( the big moving average ) with the High Energy time.

The "stealth line" represent the 8 range trend on a 4 range chart.
It won't give you the trading patterns of the 8 range
so having 2 charts is still better! context of larger pattern is king!

PiCoTrader 

Here are The Stealth line ( the big moving average ) with the High Energy time. The "stealth line" represent the 8 range trend on a 4 range chart. It won't give you the trading patterns of the 8 range so having 2 charts is still better! context of larger pattern is king!

What indicators are you using besides the:

_line_reg_color_paint etc.
Session_Pivots_V2 etc.
DonchianChannel(5)
Murry Math

and I personall added:
Swing(5)
PPO(Close,12,26,9)

Thanks,

Jack

simple question, since we have so many detractors to their stuff,

is anyone making money using their method, or their AT's? (that is willing to share their comments with us on these threads)

it would be appreciated.


my take on the matter is 2 things

1) the amount of participation that their services encourage from the retail public makes the contracts more liquid, so more activity please

2) the reality of an AT is elusive, and those with working ones rarely ever let on, and the elusion remains a fleeting desire that after one wipe out removes most gains from multiple days previous

3) yeah, I said just 2 things, but really the list goes on

4) a good set of charts, templates and approach methods beats a full house flush with AT's everytime

Just recently got an email from them (though I have repeatedly unsubscribed) and noticed they are using the nexusfi.com (formerly BMT) Murrey Math Lines in their product. Exactly the same!
They like to call it the Breakout Math.




Thoughts?

jthom 

Just recently got an email from them (though I have repeatedly unsubscribed) and noticed they are using the nexusfi.com (formerly BMT) Murray Math Lines in their product. Exactly the same! They like to call it the Breakout Math. Thoughts?

I don't believe Murray Math Lines are unique to nexusfi.com (formerly BMT), but those guys are great for talking common indicators, renaming them and calling them proprietary.

They aren't worth the money they are charging.

Pete

lol

reinventing the wheel syndrome,very contagious.

Peter2150 

I don't believe Murray Math Lines are unique to NexusFi (formerly BMT), but those guys are great for talking common indicators, renaming them and calling them proprietary. They aren't worth the money they are charging. Pete

Yeah they don't seem unique.
However this version is exactly the same as the one posted by Big Mike. In 2009/2010 there was a lot of development of this indicator here.

Bottom line, stay away.

Viperspeedtraders has been reinvented as smartsignaltrading. Most of the new website has been lifted from the old site.

I just happened to stumble on the new site and couldn't shake that it sounded all so familiar. Sure enough, it's the same. Many of the same old indicators with a few new ones thrown in.

I've read some really good things and some really bad things about the operators. True or not? Do your own diligence.