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hmmm... not quite... holding a registration doesnt make you trustworthy... you have no idea how many crooks have registrations and have run hedge funds and have been CTA's and stolen peoples money....however, holding a registration does make you a professional within the context of FINRA/NFA/CFTC/SEC.. and ensures that you have a very good and clear understanding of how markets functions, instruments, and regulations within the marketplace... also, for most exams you have to be sponsored by a member firm, which usually means some kind of financial services related firm and the registrant holding some sort of job within that firm that exposes him to the requirements for registration/licensing, which then makes you an institutional trader..
Can you help answer these questions from other members on NexusFi?
LMAO.. assuming that I understand your statement properly... given the economy and how things are and that there is no guarantee that one will have a job tomorrow.... I think you might have miss understood what I meant... I was referring to true arbitrage opportunities ... those are the only edges that one can exploit with no risk and what I personally consider no risk.. when no matter what the market does you are guaranteed your profit once you enter the trade.
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You would be correct. Professional traders make their money by creating liquidity for institutional hedgers. Retail traders do not trade enough volume to cover the costs professionals trader incur.
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows..."
I'd like to also remind everyone, there are a number of hedge fund managers right here on futures.io (formerly BMT). I am aware of them as admin of the site, maybe I see their email address, PayPal info if they are an Elite Member, etc. They simply don't post, from what I understand (as I've been told) there are legal reasons that prevent them or complicate things regarding posting, so they don't.
Point is, there are funds out there using some of the same techniques some of you use, just on a much broader scale. Unless you believe they are only here to learn what retail traders are doing so they can do the opposite.
I saw a webinar by NOFT-Traders. net . they have an order flow pro system that includes the institutional levels pushed to ypur ninja trader 8 charts daily before the maket opens. for $2999.00: stickyman:
The idea of secret Institutional Levels is rather silly.
The bottom line is that for a market to move, there has to be a lot of participants to change their behavior at the same time.
That happens because of a combination of things.
- levels that lots of people can see
- profit taking
- change in sentiment (macro level, fundamentals etc)
- stops being run
- no longer willing to play in the direction of the market (it's gone too far syndrome).
The concept of an institutional level would mean that multiple institutions are playing WITH each other AGAINST who?
Let's say such a set of levels existed and many institutions traded the same level. So you have 10 institutions all trading the same levels and just Joe Punter at home getting taken out by them...
What's to stop one of the 10 institutions front running the level - getting in a bit early? What's to stop an institution gunning the level to stop the other institutions out?
Comparing the institutional volume against retail volume - if all the institutions are working together to move the markets - who are they making money off? The retail traders? Are they really the majority? If so - how are the institutions able to move the market against the majority.
Just because someone sells institutional levels, doesn't mean they exist. Institutions compete against each other, they don't share notes!
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