Thanks, I was quoted lower at vision Vision Financial Markets - Futures, Securities & Options | Brokerage, Clearing & Technology without any volume requirements or volume questions.

I really like Vision, they are really good, they are big but not really known. And they are the creators of the Rithmic datafeed, so they are AT the source of it.

They are not the creators of Rithmic, they are users just like me.
Rithmic is a fully independent company.

What you are quoted and what is on paper is a different thing. Do you actually have less than 4 on a statement?
Many quote fees without the routing fee, my fee is all in.

Matt

When they quote me and they say it's ALL IN rount trip, including all fees etc, I assume it's all in.

you are correct on the Rithmic, I checked again on the emails I got from them and they say the datafeed is coming from Rithmic, LLC. It's because at Rithmic I was guided to Vision because they are a merchant. Rithmic - Partners You are listed there as an IB.

MetalTrade 

When they quote me and they say it's ALL IN rount trip, including all fees etc, I assume it's all in. you are correct on the Rithmic, I checked again on the emails I got from them and they say the datafeed is coming from Rithmic, LLC. It's because at Rithmic I was guided to Vision because they are a merchant. Rithmic - Partners You are listed there as an IB.

They say....LOL...routing fees are different.

I have a very good relationship with Rithmic and they service me and my clients like champions.
They know I am a very enthusiastic about getting new business, but at the same time servicing my guys is a priority.
Rithmic is VERY responsive and gives me A+ service so far.

two weeks ago I went with the owner of Rithmic to see the Bull's pre-season in Chicago.
Bulls were leading by 12 points and then lost...lucky for the Bull's pre season is like sim mode...doesn't count..LOL

Recently there was discussion about NinjaTrader's use of Zen Fire service levels that provided filtered data.

Well, now with NT7 RC1 beta 23, they've announced this as a change:

Changed - ZenFire adapter
Changed default connection points to servers that provide unfiltered bid/ask data (Existing users must re-create their account connection)

Mike

zenfire has tick data, I use it yesterday

ArnieM 

zenfire has tick data, I use it yesterday

Who is this addressed to? No one said Zen Fire doesn't have tick data....

Mike

I had problems with Zenfire and the TT datafeed today. It was missing old data and when I tried to reload it, it didn't worked and my charts were messed up. I just had it.

I took a subscription at DTN/IQFEED, it delivers all you need as a trader, I should have been doing this a long time ago. The free datafeeds are to place orders IMHO, not to feed your charting.

Just an update and question as at March 2011.

The last few weeks have seen terrible issues with zen fire, eg see support forum thread:

delayed zenfire data - NinjaTrader Support Forum

I even had issues with live Kinetick feed this morning (promptly fixed). I'm considering a broker that provides TT data, eg Velocity Futures, as an alternative to zen fire, which has been having little micro freezes for the last few months (it's affecting non-US residents more - I'm in Europe).

If anyone has an updated opinion on the TT data feed or on Velocity Futures (or another TT broker supporting Ninja) then I'd love to hear about it!

ps: Ninja supporting brokers offering TT are:

• Advantage Futures
• AMP Futures
• Future Path Trading
• Gateway Capital
• vCap Trading
• Velocity Futures

Thanks!

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