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I too have studied both PATs and John Grady's stuff, but didn't think to integrate them. I also found the 2 point stop loss to be problematic. Is it still working for you and, if so, are you willing to share your thoughts? I have only purchased John's beginner course but, obviously would be willing to purchase his intermediate course and other material if that would be helpful. The same for Mack's stuff, purchased the manual but not his yearly subscription. Finally, I also use Sierra Chart so any information on your chartbook setups that you think would be useful would be appreciated. Thank you for your time.
I started having trouble trading the ES using my integrated approach in September and October. Never figured out what the reason was. I think I was seeing setups in the order flow that weren't really setups. Others have noted that the DOM in the ES is most of the times impossible to read. You get easily chopped up. I think the DOM still has good info and can give you the edge at times, but I lean toward using PATs more to trade the ES in general.
I also started trading Treasuries using Grady's ideas. So since November, been trading both Treasuries and ES. I use Sierra Chart too. I have DOMs set up for ZN, ZB, ZF, and ES, and I have a 2000 tick ES chart up. I watch both and take the setups I see. Haven't been trading the past month though with the volatility and also I'm on vacation right now.
So that's where I am right now... Feel free to ask anything more specific.
Combining order flow with price action works very well. I did a video on topic some years ago now that you might find helpful. It also covers how the market moves which is not often explained with IMHO.
I know it has been asked a long time ago but i found these indicators by accident while looking for something else on YT:
A) Official site of the Two Legged Pullback Indicator
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1KcKgrn6yigURbvNj7MS1w[/yt]
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B) Trade Devils Price Action Indicator for NinjaTrader 8
The guy at A) trades lives in front of people streaming from YT. The other indicator seems more polished but have not tested any of these products but like what they did with it.
I have noticed that you sell an automated strategy of PATS on your website and was wondering if you'd like to share with us some trade statistics from that. Thank you very much.