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July 18th, 2021, 04:43 PM
Houston
Posts: 393 since Dec 2016
Thanks Given: 362
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bobwest
Don't pay someone on the internet to show you how to trade. If someone knows how to trade, they don't need your money. If they want your money, they don't know how to trade....
You're not going to find an exception to this.
Bob.
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UPDATE: I should point out that, for instance, there are authors who write books that can be useful, especially to newcomers to trading. Or who even put out good information on the internet and want some (modest) payment for it.
But the basic equation still holds. It's a matter of what they promise and what they charge for it. If someone promises a huge result, they won't provide it. If they want a large payment, their advice won't be worth it. It's just supply and demand: why would they need you?
I would pay any amount of money I could get together for direct, personal lessons in investing from Warren Buffet, but I'm not going to get them. There's a simple reason for that.
Thank you so much Mike for this.
Thank you. You are absolutely right sir.
Can you help answer these questions from other members on NexusFi?
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August 22nd, 2021, 12:38 PM
Western Florida
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Minutes
Posts: 8,168 since Jan 2013
Thanks Given: 57,778
Thanks Received: 26,365
vstolyarov
Dear Traders,
Today I felt like writing this brief post to bring fresh light into this particular Vendor presented on futures io site. I had pleasure of seeing performance/chatting personally/experiencing his service in full; and learning tons of new and irreplaceable knowledge for myself.
, are you actually Vinny yourself, or working for him or speaking on his behalf?
I am asking this because this review sounds like advertising copy, not like anyone's real experience.
Please respond whether you have any connection with this vendor.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
September 5th, 2021, 02:12 AM
Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 94 since May 2021
Thanks Given: 55
Thanks Received: 147
vstolyarov
I assure you i have proof i spend enough time to write this review over course of many months.. i was surprised this forum had some issues with this particular vendor and noted that for myself about 1month ago.
It still absolutely sounds like a paid advertisement on a thread from years ago
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September 16th, 2021, 08:35 PM
San Antonio TX/US
Experience: Beginner
Platform: SC,Tastyworks
Trading: MES/Options
Posts: 26 since Feb 2021
Thanks Given: 65
Thanks Received: 25
vstolyarov
Advertisement lol, everyone is free to choose what tools they use... ahha, you made me laugh.
You better come and checkout best Futures Trading Room I have found and check for yourself before you make false judgements.
9/16/2021 End of day Es chart:
ES
NQ
Everyone should be skeptical of anything related to trading these days... Once I found AlgoBox it was quite obvious that it was the best to me. And I'm not being biased and I have no incentive to be posting this other than posting what I found. I have not found any other trade room that is 100% free. But AlgoBox has a 100% free open to the public trade room. It is the only system I've seen that also provides 100% free training and education. And it is the only system I've ever seen that has a 100% no strings attached 2-week free trial that can also be extended if someone simply asks. These are all simply facts they are not something being stated to promote the room. I just found this thread and it looked like it needed to be updated. And yes I'm loving the system because it works and the room is great. There are a lot of great people in there as well. That's all I'm saying.
Those charts look like absolute shit. Sorry.
September 16th, 2021, 09:42 PM
Owensboro, KY
Platform: TradingView
Trading: ES/NQ
Posts: 198 since Sep 2015
Thanks Given: 197
Thanks Received: 101
bobwest
Don't pay someone on the internet to show you how to trade. If someone knows how to trade, they don't need your money. If they want your money, they don't know how to trade....
You're not going to find an exception to this.
Bob.
---------------
UPDATE: I should point out that, for instance, there are authors who write books that can be useful, especially to newcomers to trading. Or who even put out good information on the internet and want some (modest) payment for it.
But the basic equation still holds. It's a matter of what they promise and what they charge for it. If someone promises a huge result, they won't provide it. If they want a large payment, their advice won't be worth it. It's just supply and demand: why would they need you?
I would pay any amount of money I could get together for direct, personal lessons in investing from Warren Buffet, but I'm not going to get them. There's a simple reason for that.
Seems a lot of Wyckoff guys have something to sell, David Weis (RIP), Gary Dayton, Wyckoff Analytics, Gary Fullett, Roman Bogomazov and Bruce Fraser? Do you think these guys can't trade and Wyckoff is a failed method?
September 17th, 2021, 05:34 AM
Western Florida
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Minutes
Posts: 8,168 since Jan 2013
Thanks Given: 57,778
Thanks Received: 26,365
bobwest
Don't pay someone on the internet to show you how to trade. If someone knows how to trade, they don't need your money. If they want your money, they don't know how to trade....
You're not going to find an exception to this.
Bob.
58LesPaul
Seems a lot of Wyckoff guys have something to sell,
David Weis (RIP), Gary Dayton, Wyckoff Analytics, Gary Fullett, Roman Bogomazov and Bruce Fraser? Do you think these guys can't trade and Wyckoff is a failed method?
I don't really know anything about Wyckoff and don't want to comment on specific people without knowing about them. I was making a general point about how much you should be willing to pay for someone's advice or opinion about markets and trading (you should pay very little), and, in general, I think traders should beware of large promises and high costs. The people you mention may or may not offer value. Weis, for example, is well thought of. You would need to assess them yourself and form an opinion. I can't offer an opinion myself, sorry.
But this is an off-topic question in this thread. There are a huge number of threads on Wyckoff where it could be asked, but let's not pursue it in this one.
Thanks.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
September 17th, 2021, 06:02 AM
Western Florida
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Minutes
Posts: 8,168 since Jan 2013
Thanks Given: 57,778
Thanks Received: 26,365
vstolyarov
Everyone should be skeptical of anything related to trading these days... Once I found AlgoBox it was quite obvious that it was the best to me. And I'm not being biased and I have no incentive to be posting this other than posting what I found. I have not found any other trade room that is 100% free. But AlgoBox has a 100% free open to the public trade room. It is the only system I've seen that also provides 100% free training and education. And it is the only system I've ever seen that has a 100% no strings attached 2-week free trial that can also be extended if someone simply asks. These are all simply facts they are not something being stated to promote the room. I just found this thread and it looked like it needed to be updated. And yes I'm loving the system because it works and the room is great. There are a lot of great people in there as well. That's all I'm saying.
Moderator Notice
, you are posting essentially content-free advertisements for this vendor that are close to spam. Your post is a relentless plug that offers nothing that would help others to assess whether they want to give this vendor a try. I do not think you are doing him any favors with this high-pressure selling.
Posting this sort of advertising copy is a misuse of the access to the members that this forum provides.
If you have an actual review that reflects actual experience in a believable way and that provides information that others can use, then it is welcome. Providing this kind of sales material is not, and will not be accepted here.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
September 17th, 2021, 12:29 PM
New York NY/United States
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Multicharts, TS, TOS
Trading: Futures, Options, Stocks
Posts: 238 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 104
Thanks Received: 309
No audited track record besides C2
No multi-year audited broker statements
Private livestream mostly now it seems
September 17th, 2021, 08:02 PM
San Antonio TX/US
Experience: Beginner
Platform: SC,Tastyworks
Trading: MES/Options
Posts: 26 since Feb 2021
Thanks Given: 65
Thanks Received: 25
vstolyarov
I take full accountability for all my thoughts, decisions and actions. All risks are mine and mine alone. All achievements and profits are mine… and all losses are also mine. I am fully responsible for all I do. In the trading/investing business only full grown adults can achieve results if they so desire. I take no forms of any monetary payments for advertising for anybody.
I can’t simply be bought or sold. I do deep research before I post anything in my name.
My opinions are my own and I can try to respond to further posts discussing the “full featured content” (in response to mods requests if necessary) about AlgoBox™ in comparison to what you currently using if so is necessary and not the blames for self advertising…
Bc its counterproductive and we are not focusing on the value of the system itself. That is left to be discovered and applied by people who are willing to give a shot.
So if you so desire give it a thought first before further negativity comes up, try AlgoBox™ system yourself for an extensive period before expressing your negative opinions or ask any specific questions how it really works...
AlgoBox™ does work and has a bigger than average edge that anyone can come up with currently sitting at home in front of their computer.
Furthermore… do you think I care about any "Analytic" opinion/reply, just taking it on another level here bc I seen this “guy” before, did I consult him before, did I shook his hand to review a Vendor that I am talking about it here... I don’t think so. Let me tell you the truth I already seen, he tends to lurk on and off sometimes, tries to achieve his so called success but desperately fails while suggesting everything is fake/crap using social media imo to his disadvantage, basing his own opinion on what he dislikes.
Off-topic now but ```Analytics in general are people who did “their” analysis (the little role they play in today’s society) and now writing articles about who people should purchase products from and whom they should avoid. What gets them off I wonder in doing so. Who are they helping anyways? I wonder? ``` - might be quote of the day lol
Answer is quite obvious; to make me profitable is not part of “their” goal. Obviously there are market makers or other entities involved behind scenes that they probably work/cooperate with. They stick to their opinions whether people should be buying or selling and in such way to reassure that general public takes a loss, gets confused before even succeeding and parts with their hard earned money, while there’s a conflict of interest play at the opposite side of the equation. - I tell you I consider it very smart move here…
Remember between you and the market there should not be any other’s person’s opinion on your decisions and actions. Ex: The latest morning cnbc article, the news… guy down the street, media etc… leave that out. So think for yourself and question authority and anyone’s thoughts before you can be 100% sure yourself.
I have to tell you that I am simple man and not a god/guru of trading here to review this vendor and make some sales pitch claims, I’m just a student of the markets as many people who are browsing this forum...
and It’s totally up to you to go see what’s going on around the trading industry in general.
The louder and flashier promoted posts/methods get pinned up on the most forums these days. the more in doubt I would be about them and I do test various tools to aid my trading while get the time.
Ask me about other things I tested that public uses I can tell you what works and what doesn’t I acquired a vast amount of knowledge already… My biggest mistakes etc if you wish so…
The horseplay/accusations/spam calling is the whole bunch on nonsense imo that already creates a negative layer on the whole industry and way things are handled… stressing
lots of people off including myself.
So I just had to respond; otherwise if I didn’t know what was happening I would move along with my life and keep trading a profitable system imo.
Here is just one of the videos I made on July 24th (raw and unedited, just a market replay something that is encouraged and taught in 120days of learning the system, so that members of Vinny's can comment and correct me on if Im doing something off while I was still learning)… its been unlisted for quite some time so my trading has improved dramatically since then, while I was perfecting my methods by doing market replays and practicing the system in demo mode which I have tons of
screenshots / video backups off to prove it….
///Do I have to remind Analytic Trader about his deep hatred for Vinny he probably knows it himself. ///
But I digress.
Have a great weekend.
Playback...
September 18th, 2021, 01:56 AM
San Antonio TX/US
Experience: Beginner
Platform: SC,Tastyworks
Trading: MES/Options
Posts: 26 since Feb 2021
Thanks Given: 65
Thanks Received: 25
vstolyarov
yep just showing training phase.. if you wanna see more, I can make another video on monday
live
I would be interested in that.
Last Updated on June 24, 2024