NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





China's Shanghai crash of 2015


Discussion in Traders Hideout

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one Big Mike with 9 posts (4 thanks)
    2. looks_two PeakGrowth with 7 posts (3 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Jigsaw Trading with 5 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 treydog999 with 4 posts (12 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one treydog999 with 3 thanks per post
    2. looks_two xiaosi with 3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 suko with 1.5 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 0.4 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 18,471 views
    2. thumb_up 34 thanks given
    3. group 19 followers
    1. forum 43 posts
    2. attach_file 7 attachments




 
Search this Thread

China's Shanghai crash of 2015

  #41 (permalink)
 i960 
San Francisco, CA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: SC, eSignal
Broker: IB
Trading: Spreads
Posts: 46 since Jan 2015
Thanks Given: 44
Thanks Received: 43


xiaosi View Post
Market manipulation on this type of scale is not new, anyone ever heard of the Plunge Protection Team?

Then there's the old favorites for long term manipulation, Bond buying by the central banks.

I can understand why they're doing this, allot of China's non-urban residents have been the ones buying the top, they want to avoid civil unrest...

They also want to avoid that whole problem of listed companies who took out loans using their own stock as collateral.

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
What broker to use for trading palladium futures
Commodities
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
Quantum physics & Trading dynamics
The Elite Circle
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
REcommedations for programming help
Sierra Chart
 
  #42 (permalink)
 jz166 
NY, USA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT/IB TWS
Broker: IB
Trading: ES
Posts: 951 since Sep 2009
Thanks Given: 813
Thanks Received: 444

It's hard to use conventional TA to analyze China market.
I'd say it's still in bull market, and it will be much higher than current level a year from now.

Reply With Quote
  #43 (permalink)
amarno1
London, England
 
Posts: 3 since Jul 2015
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 4


Amazed to see that no-one has really answered the question as to why this is happening. It does have a basis in Reckless lending however the real problem is the shadow economy in China.

As many of you guys might know every country has a shadow economy the produces huge amount of revenues for individuals and the government alike however the activities are frowned upon.

In China the shadow economy focuses on 2 things.

1. Large scale lending for irrelevent property invesments.

As of 2014 approximately 80% of New build properties in China for the previous year were unoccupied.

The government has illegally subsidised large construction firms to build property to try and create jobs for 'the greatness of China' Last year they started to curtail their lending but upon doing so have found that These large corporations have so much power they can now maniplulate the publics perception of the Market and are therefore forcing the hand of the lenders.

2. The Banks themselves have been up until now been making huge amounts for lending under these government schemes and when the government asked them to stop lending they looked at their profit margins and basically said fck off.
The government has lost control of the banks and in losing control they have allowed this reckless shadow lending to continue at the detriment to a number of the other industries.

The conclusion is that we will fairly soon see a large interest rate slash so that the communist regime can retake control of the countries finances. Pushing huge numbers back into poverty and huge jobs cuts.

' And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it'

Reply With Quote
  #44 (permalink)
 choke35 
Germany
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Other
Trading: ES, YM, 6E
Posts: 2,668 since Feb 2013
Thanks Given: 5,101
Thanks Received: 6,558


amarno1 View Post
Amazed to see that no-one has really answered the question ...

Perhaps you should read the other posts next time before repeating others with your 2cts

Reply With Quote




Last Updated on July 21, 2015


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts