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Creating hard trading rules around a discretionary trading system

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 kougaiga 
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I dont think thats its useful to "doubt" al brooks or mack pats method and it very obviously works well for them and several of their students.

What I have gathered from my back test is that my implementation of it, is not working for me. Could be from a series of factor that are preventing me from being profitable with their method.
Personality type, risk tolerance, proficiency at chart reading, etc.

I am having success using some of their chart reading principles, market profile, and taking 2R trades rather than a fixed 2 point scalp. So i will be looking for these intraday swing trades exclusively and no longer look for small 2 point moves.

Just this morning I caught a 9.5 point move on 2 contracts.


I don't doubt mack or al brooks method at all. I am just of the mind personally, and with my backtesting that it does not work for me and my trading style.

I was scalping with sim like you.
12 TPs and a stop loss on a 3 minute chart (if the context gets bad, I close the position immediately).
As you say, the results depend on my personality and trading skills.
However, I have tested many of the entry patterns I can find in Brooks Trading Course on MES charts with NT8 replays, and they don't seem to have a clear 50/50 probability in scalping.
As for entry, I think it very much depends on the individual's one-tick reading skills.
(I find Brooks' MMs, wedge patterns, etc. very helpful in clarifying loss and profit targets)

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 Keab 
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I am also trading with Al Brooks' method, but my win rate is hovering around 50%.
I doubt that this method is working as the losses are small but the profits in my account are not building up.
After all, I feel like I'm gambling 50/50 on S/R because I don't know when to make a detailed entry in one tick increments


I also use a translation website.

Damn that's a good point. If your win ratio is 50/50 then all you're doing is tossing a coin.
However you can make it profitable with good money management. Basically your winning 50% of trades need to be making more pips/points than your losing trades!

Combined with this, if you could tweak 50/50 to 55/45 then things could really change.

But yeah a straight up 50/50 ratio does sound like just a coin toss. With extra rules attached

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 kougaiga 
japan siga
 
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Is anyone trading with Mack's PATS in combination with forex's 5Min Intraday System?
Maybe the two systems could work well together?

I also use a translation website.

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FrizzTradez
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As a discretionary trader all you really have is your process. More specifically your decision making process. Refine and make your process clear. Remove inconsistency's in your decisions and your results will be more consistent. Even if they aren't good results your still achieving some sort of consistency. Which from there you can tweak what you consider as opportunity.

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