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Should civil discourse about politics be allowed on FIO?

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userque
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Since it's been done, it can't be an oxymoron. I admit I am uncertain why you believe that, but I think it may be symptomatic of the problem. In fact, civil discourse one of the major goals of any democratic system, including our own. It is hard to imagine a lasting democracy where people cannot express alternate political viewpoints to each other and still remain rational human beings. You have a choice whether to maintain civility with people you disagree with, either in politics or anything else.

If you really believe this kind of behavior doesn't exist, try watching old news broadcasts or even political debates on YouTube prior to the year 2000. It isn't impossible--it just requires a bit of self management and a basic level of politeness.

I agree!

Politics, in and of itself, isn't uncivil. Uncivil people are uncivil; and civil people can act uncivilized when attacked by the uncivil.

Banning political discussion due to a minority of uncivilized participants is like banning recess for all school kids because of a fear that a few bullies might show up.

The goal should be to either reform the uncivilized; or excommunicate them--not to limit our discussions.

And in light of the repeated statements here that some don't want to see politics here ... it has been suggested more than once that the political discussions could be separated from the trading discussions. Those that don't want to see political discussions, would not have to enter into, nor see, the political discussions if such a setup were utilized.

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Well that didn't take too long to morph into religion "Come now, and let us reason together ..." is taken from Is 1:18. Religion and Politics - 2 strange bedfellows

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Well that didn't take too long to morph into religion "Come now, and let us reason together ..." is taken from Is 1:18. Religion and Politics - 2 strange bedfellows

Until now, it was just a signature line ... and not meant to be part of a discussion ... and intentionally didn't have a Bible reference.

Speaking of strange ...

LOL at the fact that you chose that to be the topic of your third, ever, post here ... since 2013!

I guess I can have that type of effect on people.

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Meh...
We're all here for something else. Yes, politics can move the market, but politics won't make me a better trader. I think I'd do better w/o the distraction. Besides, I already have a headache

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I support all those who voted for discussing only political news that has some valuable market impact. And in this case, nothing will change in regard to moderation.
No religion, politics or programming languages arguments!

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I am of the opinion that politics manifest from word to deed. It is an extension of a personality into a personal representative. In other words, if you are a person of honor, than you want an honorable person representing you and if you are a thief, you want a thief to represent you. Hence, in the end it is a battle of morals vs. no morals? While I think there is only 1 party (The Pinocchio Party) I also realize there are a few good eggs. But to say even this statement is now a political statement. My party does not exist because it is not of this world. I am only here to watch as liars and moralists kill each other. In the end there can be only one said the Highlander. Ultimately, this worlds politics is about control of others. Something that has been going on since the beginning. And what is sad to me is that people allow others to control their lives. Does this count as a vote?

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All states are represented by two senators. So a citizen of California with a population 40 million (which is 39% white) is represented by two senators – as are the 570,000 people who live in the state of Wyoming (which is 92% white). This means that voters in older, rural and majority-white states are significantly over-represented in both the Senate and presidential elections. This may explain the fact that out of nearly 2,000 people who have served in the Senate since 1789 only 10 have been black.

It will only get worse. According to author Ezra Klein “By 2040, 70% of Americans will live in the 15 largest states. That means 70% of America will be represented by only 30 senators, while the other 30% of America will be represented by 70 senators.” Klein has neatly summarised the problem thus: “One of the biggest problems with American democracy is that it’s not democratic.”
The scourges that afflict America have lasted 400 years– the first enslaved people arrived in 1619– not four years ago.

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All states are represented by two senators. So a citizen of California with a population 40 million (which is 39% white) is represented by two senators – as are the 570,000 people who live in the state of Wyoming (which is 92% white). This means that voters in older, rural and majority-white states are significantly over-represented in both the Senate and presidential elections. This may explain the fact that out of nearly 2,000 people who have served in the Senate since 1789 only 10 have been black.

It will only get worse. According to author Ezra Klein “By 2040, 70% of Americans will live in the 15 largest states. That means 70% of America will be represented by only 30 senators, while the other 30% of America will be represented by 70 senators.” Klein has neatly summarised the problem thus: “One of the biggest problems with American democracy is that it’s not democratic.”
The scourges that afflict America have lasted 400 years– the first enslaved people arrived in 1619– not four years ago.

Yes Maybe this is the trend, but think about this.... White Americans split Democrat / Republican about 40/60. Black Americans split 90/10.


In Georgia the Black vote was most crucial. There was 2.5 million votes for each Democrat Senator. Of the 2.5 million for each Democrat Senator, nearly 1.6 million per Senator was by black Americans. "Power in numbers". (Georgia does have the highest Black American Population by State at 32%)

Also to think about, More and More Black Americans are moving in the ranks of the Republican party. Another 20 years of this and well you get the picture.

Or maybe even Tim Scott in 2024... Game Set Match.

Just some thoughts.

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If futures.io allows politcal speech will futures.io be responsible for monitoring and removing hate speech or be deplatformed like Parler. Futures.io would be exposing itself and users to unecessary risk.

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If futures.io allows politcal speech will futures.io be responsible for monitoring and removing hate speech or be deplatformed like Parler. Futures.io would be exposing itself and users to unecessary risk.

I believe the problem Parler had was allowing the planning of violence.

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