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I look at what is happening in Egypt, and I wonder when something similar will happen in the United States...

I am not just talking about the protesting turning violent, but also the government actions like blocking forms of communication (first Twitter and Facebook, and now the entire Internet has been "ordered" disabled in Egypt).

In a democracy the government exists "for the people, by the people" and yet we continue to see, over and over again, our government taking actions that are against the interests of its people.

I used to think that you could just vote in someone that would "change", but the truth is, the elected officials still make and pass laws that go against what their constituents want. All the lobbying and backroom deals... in any other country we would call this outright corruption, yet it seems Americans are unwilling or unable to make that association with our own elected officials.

Anymore I am kinda at a loss as to what to do... America is still the greatest country on Earth, in my opinion naturally, but for how much longer given the path we are currently on?

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The US has many things that are great about it and so do other countries . When your country embraces freedom and democracy then the squeakiest wheels get the grease and those that are good cheaters will take advantage of the ones that bury their heads in the sand .

Its a very different place here than it was 50 years ago and the population is more varied and dense . Since enough people have come here from countries with no running water , rampant unemployment , civil war , ethnic cleansing etc. the status quo gets lowered a little at a time since this place is still paradise relatively speaking .

Us that are born in the US cant fathom the realities of these other countries and dont appreciate our ability to have a voice and that will handcuff us all in the end when we dont have rights and wind up with a dictatorship . 2/3 of eligible voters came out in 08 for a presidential election . To me that says that 1 in 3 of us dont really care what happens in the future and thats a shame , really sad .

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I look at what is happening in Egypt, and I wonder when something similar will happen in the United States...

I am not just talking about the protesting turning violent, but also the government actions like blocking forms of communication (first Twitter and Facebook, and now the entire Internet has been "ordered" disabled in Egypt).

In a democracy the government exists "for the people, by the people" and yet we continue to see, over and over again, our government taking actions that are against the interests of its people.

I used to think that you could just vote in someone that would "change", but the truth is, the elected officials still make and pass laws that go against what their constituents want. All the lobbying and backroom deals... in any other country we would call this outright corruption, yet it seems Americans are unwilling or unable to make that association with our own elected officials.

Anymore I am kinda at a loss as to what to do... America is still the greatest country on Earth, in my opinion naturally, but for how much longer given the path we are currently on?

Mike

BigMike, With all due respect sir... put down the tea bag and back away slowly....

Any one who has ever done business in the third world knows ... as bad as our politicians are ( and they are quite despicable)... they are rank amateurs compared to other countries.

Americans are without a doubt the most spoiled, coddled,self absorbed, drama queens on the planet ... well... except for maybe the French... but for this discussion we can't include them... gotta separate the professionals from the amateurs .

In this country, the rich and powerful have always run things and always will. That's just how it works ... it ain't right ... but that IS how it works. The only difference between the past and now is that we are more aware of it. The ogres in the past did a much better job of covering it up. Our current overlords are too dang stupid or lazy to hide it.

If the system don't work ... work the system ... "We have been prisoners longer than they have been guards...". You've taken the first step, you're an independent trader. You can now rip the "Ruling Class" a new one .. and there's nothing they can do about it.

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I agree with what has been said.

I guess my real issue is that here the politicians lie, cheat, steal - but we don't call it corruption. In other parts of the world politicians do those things and they are called out for what they are - corrupt. It's as if most American's are so brainwashed by mainstream media they truly have no understanding or appreciation for the level of corruption that exists today in our government.

I'm not saying it is any better somewhere else. But this is America, it's not supposed to be like this here.

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BigMike, With all due respect sir... put down the tea bag and back away slowly....

BTW, I consider myself an independent. I'll vote and support whoever lies, cheats and steals the least.

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Americans are without a doubt the most spoiled, coddled,self absorbed, drama queens on the planet ... well... except for maybe the French... but for this discussion we can't include them... gotta separate the professionals from the amateurs .

Well at least we don't have the ego problem of including a whole continent when we talk of ourselves.. 'Cause you do know that America is actually a continent , right ?

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Well at least we don't have the ego problem of including a whole continent when we talk of ourselves.. 'Cause you do know that America is actually a continent , right ?

Actually... North America is a continent.. Which includes and which are countries... But I live in which is a whole 'nother country...

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I look at what is happening in Egypt, and I wonder when something similar will happen in the United States...

I am not just talking about the protesting turning violent, but also the government actions like blocking forms of communication (first Twitter and Facebook, and now the entire Internet has been "ordered" disabled in Egypt).

In a democracy the government exists "for the people, by the people" and yet we continue to see, over and over again, our government taking actions that are against the interests of its people.

I used to think that you could just vote in someone that would "change", but the truth is, the elected officials still make and pass laws that go against what their constituents want. All the lobbying and backroom deals... in any other country we would call this outright corruption, yet it seems Americans are unwilling or unable to make that association with our own elected officials.

Anymore I am kinda at a loss as to what to do... America is still the greatest country on Earth, in my opinion naturally, but for how much longer given the path we are currently on?

Mike

Did you see the news item this week about the legislation being introduced again giving the President the internet kill switch? There are those in Washington that want to have this power.

I don't see protests like in Egypt here until food prices start suffering from exorbitant inflation. We are printing too much money; does anyone believe the Fed will be smart enough and capable enough to control inflation once it gets going? Alan Greenspan disavows any responsibility for creating any bubbles (I think he challenged anyone to prove he did) and I suspect Ben B will also deny any responsibility when things really go south.

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I think we tend to romanticize the past for some reason when it comes to this stuff too.
As if "Honest Abe" was something other than Abraham Lincoln campaign/office propaganda that has filtered down.
When we remember JFK we don't think of a total womanizer that is off the map compared to anything modern with a father who should have been in jail with Bernie Madoff.
On the other hand I've read Obama campaign could be spending a billion dollars to hold the office.

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