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What is the most profitable for a retail trader?

Manually trading equities
Manually trading options
Manually trading forex
Manually trading futures

Algo trading equities
Algo trading options
Algo trading forex
Algo trading futures

Please cast your vote and then use this thread to discuss.

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What is the most profitable for a retail trader?

Manually trading futures
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but by the very same answer, statistically speaking:

Manually trading futures already spells doom for more than 90% of those choosing to trade for themselves.

nevertheless it is an engaging debatable response; also it is a reflection from limited personal experience.


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Why futures?
Could be any instrument as long as you have a proper methodology...
No?


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Depends on the trader. Someone who can't code isn't going to make and money trading an algo.

Assuming the trader has decent ability, algo trading 100%. Anyone doing it seriously would be trading futures,forex and everything else.


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Why futures?
Could be any instrument as long as you have a proper methodology...
No?

trading futures open to greater risks/rewards.

i believe that is why it is so attractive to many who wish to try their hands on giving futures a chance. the ratio of reward/risk is way overwhelming toward futures corner. agree?

you are correct, if you have the correct tool and methodology to ride and straddle on the trade, particularly, on the rise and fall of the price action; you could trade multimarkets, multiproducts, multitimeframes, multicontinents as well; perhaps all in the same space, all in the same time and all in the same instance as well....

WOW, WON'T THAT BE SOMETHING EXTRA-EXTRAORDINARY?

anyone on board ever tries that, pls?


let those who believe they have their engraved holygrailed trading tools proceed to the fore front.... pls.

have a wonderful and safe wkend everyone. cheers.


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Doesn't matter. Give me 100k and I can trade the TF futures, just as well (or as bad) as I could trade the equivalent IWM etf. What matters is that which ever approach you take, you develop an appropriate methodology specific for that approach.


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I'm not sure about the algo world because I'm not there yet.
From my own experience, I would say manually trading futures during the London session,
carried over into the New York session. The same could be said for forex.


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can't be generalized, depend on so many individual factors - but stay away from the heavily arb'd index futures stuff is prob a good advise for a retailer.


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My trading strat uses a combo of options & stocks. One is naked puts, if I get stock, covered calls.
So I can't select one of the items on the list, since I have never been as successful using just stocks, options or futures.
I also disagree with the idea that you can trade any medium with a good trading plan. Well, I should clarify before the arguments start...
I can't trade them equally well based on my strategy! I envy any that have a plan that allows them to do that!

My goal is to get equally successful at trading futures as I find it has some definate appeal of stocks and options. But part of that would be partly due to my goal of more pure daytrading versus my current swing/day trading that I do.

Sorry if I got long winded, but it is a quiet morning with no trading!

Mel


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