NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Four Phases


Discussion in Psychology and Money Management

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one smusa700 with 1 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two TraderRach with 1 posts (3 thanks)
    3. looks_3 George with 1 posts (3 thanks)
    4. looks_4 ligfing with 1 posts (1 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one TraderRach with 3 thanks per post
    2. looks_two George with 3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 smusa700 with 1 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 ligfing with 1 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 2,288 views
    2. thumb_up 8 thanks given
    3. group 3 followers
    1. forum 3 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)
 
George's Avatar
 George 
Sweden
 
Experience: Master
Platform: TT, NT, MetaTrader
Broker: Velocity Futures, MB Trading
Trading: EUR/USD
Posts: 401 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 1,005
Thanks Received: 1,327

It's been said, that a trader goes through four phases.

1. Being unconsciously incompetent. That's when you don't know anything about the markets. Unfortunately most people get in the markets, on the last wave of a bull market. The only thing required is to be in the markets. Everything is going up.

2.Consciously incompetent. That's when you've realised that making money in the markets has nothing to do with buying low and sell it higher. So you start learning technical analysis. But you still loose money.

3. Consciously competent. If you haven't given up by now. You have started to gain experience. You can read the markets and feel the pulse. You're discovering that there are more advanced things that you can use;Indicators. But unfortunately you still lose money.

4. Unconsciously competent. That's the zone guys. That's where you've managed to put all the pieces together. You've been through it all. You've learned to master yourself, and you've done such a great job, that you're trading without forcing yourself to do it. You're relaxed, and all the pieces, are there. Think of the way you guys drive your cars. You don't think of it, you just do it!


Started this thread Reply With Quote
Thanked by:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
June 15 Peace Odds Surge From 3.6% to 12.25% After Trump …
Prediction Markets & Event Contracts
Netherlands & Germany Surge as World Cup Field Narro …
Prediction Markets & Event Contracts
Thursday May 28: GDP + Core PCE + Jobless Claims All at …
Traders Hideout
Would a node-based workflow for automated trading be useful?
Traders Hideout
El Clasico Draws $9.2M in Prediction Market Action -- Bi …
Prediction Markets & Event Contracts
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
NexusFi site changelog and issues/problem reporting
1 thanks
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
1 thanks
  #2 (permalink)
 
ligfing's Avatar
 ligfing 
Athens
 
Experience: None
Platform: NinjaTrader
Trading: ES
Posts: 6 since Oct 2012
Thanks Given: 7
Thanks Received: 4

Unfortunately I am still in phase 2.


"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates
Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #3 (permalink)
TraderRach
Auckland, New Zealand
 
Posts: 21 since Oct 2012
Thanks Given: 8
Thanks Received: 27


Hi George.

Thanks for your post. It's a good representation of the stages a trader must go through to achieve success trading.

It's through effective money management from Day 1 of trading that allows a trader to survive and arrive at Phase 4 "Unconsciously Competent". Unless the trader survives financially through Phases 1-3 they will never "arrive" and enjoy the wonderful sense of achievement, freedom and prosperity that trading can provide.

Once at Phase 4 you then use money management to leverage the fundamentally sound trading you do to achieve your financial objectives.

Cheers Rachel


Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #4 (permalink)
smusa700
KANO STATE NIGERIA
 
Posts: 16 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 8
Thanks Received: 8


George View Post
It's been said, that a trader goes through four phases.

1. Being unconsciously incompetent. That's when you don't know anything about the markets. Unfortunately most people get in the markets, on the last wave of a bull market. The only thing required is to be in the markets. Everything is going up.

2.Consciously incompetent. That's when you've realised that making money in the markets has nothing to do with buying low and sell it higher. So you start learning technical analysis. But you still loose money.

3. Consciously competent. If you haven't given up by now. You have started to gain experience. You can read the markets and feel the pulse. You're discovering that there are more advanced things that you can use;Indicators. But unfortunately you still lose money.

4. Unconsciously competent. That's the zone guys. That's where you've managed to put all the pieces together. You've been through it all. You've learned to master yourself, and you've done such a great job, that you're trading without forcing yourself to do it. You're relaxed, and all the pieces, are there. Think of the way you guys drive your cars. You don't think of it, you just do it!

I have just entered phase three.And base of my experience, phase two is the hardest because i really felt it, and it is dangerous. it is where all decision of whether you are going to be successful or not are made.
phase three is all about discipline and practice.

i hope i said right.


Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on November 11, 2012


© 2026 NexusFi®, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Downloads - Top
no new posts