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cpumark shows the Xeon to be a better value @kronie (see "CPU mark per $". And if I am not using the i7 graphics it just seems for my build purpose a xeon is a better fit. Runs cooler, costs less, and does not include graphics I am not going to use.
But, I am 4 for 5 today with my 2004 Sony pentium 4...
@kickmic, that is a beautiful looking build. The liquid cooling bugs me some, as it is another part to fail , and liquid inside a box makes me queasy, but it is gorgeous.
$23 does not seem like much of a difference on a big decision like the processor. The AMD is running a lot hotter, almost 3 times as much so it would need more cooling. Don't know if the additional energy consumption is factored or if it is only about the CPU mark/$. I don't know of many programs that take advantage of eight cores. 3d programs for rendering, video conversion and the like will use all the cores but is there any trading software that does? I guess it would when running simulations and other long number crunching computations.
thanks for the kind words
when done properly, you won't get leaks. Leaks can only occur if either the tubing perishes, or a connection corrodes. With the use of additives to stop this, you would have to be seriously unlucky to suffer such a thing.
Apart from above, the only item that can fail is the pump. Although designed to run for years, I've got two going just in case one borks. And with all the quick disconnects which shut off flow, I can remove any component without having to drain fluid.
If you consider the improved lifespan/reduced chance of failure of the components due to superior cooling, one can argue water cooling is a more reliable solution. However for the cost of water cooling - you can just go and buy a new PC if necessary. I did it for silence and just general interest. I've put a number of trading PC's together for fellow traders all of which were air cooled They just had to stop dust build up (as none of my mates can be bothered cleaning the insides of their PC's) and be robust to avoid getting phone calls.
Def. stick with Intel over the latest AMD CPU's. For the majority of applications, they fall way even the i5's. Also, all of the AMD motherboards use Realtek LAN controllers, whereas the better 1150 boards use Intel controllers which are superior (based on real world experience) - Realtek LAN controllers are a cost cutting measure - you'll see it reflected in the RRP of the board.
I don't know man. I understand the concept, just not enough about it to feel good about having to maintain it.
For now I am headed back down the Intel path (1230 V3), Asus Z87-A mobo, Samsung EVO SDD.
What cases do you like? The ones mentioend here were Fractal Design and Corsair. I picked up a Thermaltake V3 because I could own it for $9.99, but have not cracked the tape yet.
The highlighted case is the one I got for $9.99, and the others were cases I had considered. I see that the Fractal Design is a lot wider than anything else, but not sure why I would need that other than cable management. ?
this guy bought this beast and it rivals that one from the land down under....
hey, don't those water coolers turned upside down leak? (down under?)
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tell him to take that 16hour ride to Dallas, and in Richardson (evidently some neighborhood of Dallas) they have a store.
there's a sale on crossword games, he can pick up the latest for his Grannie, and a few USB 3.0 keys, say 32gb before returning to the Kualas
go up one model in the motherboard to the ASUS Z87 PLUS as it has an Intel LAN controller (the A has Realtek). Or you could go for the Gryphon which is micro sized but also with Intel LAN controller. The Gryphon has a 5 yr warranty and is built like a tank. Yes it has less PCIe inputs, however you can still run 3 single slot/2 dual slot GPU's on it - given there are Dual slot GPU's can run four monitors
I'm a fan of the Silverstone positive air-pressure cases as they really do keep out the dust. I've owned numerous cases over the years, including Corsair, CoolerMaster etc, and ended up with and stayed with the a positive air pressure design because it means I never have to clean out the insides from dust build up. The Silverstone TJ08-E Case is micro sized so wont fit ATX, but will fit the Gryphon. It's an award winning case for silence. Full ATX Silverstone cases worthy of considering are much higher in price, hence why I haven't mentioned them.
The Thermaltake V3 doesn't have USB2 inputs. I know its a small case having seen it in the flesh and has been replaced by the V4, which has USB3