josh 

I'd recommend Sierra chart DOM - has essentially the same feature set as jigsaw. I understand that Ninja's DOM is better than it used to be (looks like that) but it's still far behind Sierra, not surprisingly. While TT's DOM is traditionally "the standard", it's now web-based, and I don't trust a browser-rendered DOM for speed as much as I do a standalone one. Also, while the new TT has some nice features, I still don't think it compares feature-wise to Jigsaw/SC. That said, TT does have easier cancellation of orders, moving of orders, etc. than SC. As always, you will pay a monthly minimum and hefty per-side fee (triple CQG for example) for the privilege of using TT web.

Yep, the new TT is now web-based, but also the new version has a desk-top version available.

I'm on Jigsaw and when i was using CQG direct - data was very fluid and stream was consistent, now i'm trading Tradovate's CQG and it's not even comparable, DOM is very choppy, i can't see fluid stream anymore, connection restarts quite often and Jigsaw looks not so much useful. So i would say it very much depends on what you feed into the DOM.
Sierra now is almost as good as JS but i prefer JS simplicity and convenience of setup.

tandem 

I'm on Jigsaw and when i was using CQG direct - data was very fluid and stream was consistent, now i'm trading Tradovate's CQG and it's not even comparable, DOM is very choppy, i can't see fluid stream anymore, connection restarts quite often and Jigsaw looks not so much useful. So i would say it very much depends on what you feed into the DOM. Sierra now is almost as good as JS but i prefer JS simplicity and convenience of setup.

Good point. Hey, would you mind sharing how you actually move and cancel orders in jigsaw? The only thing I really dislike about SC's DOM is that in order to cancel an order you must click a tiny 'X' .. how is it done in jigsaw?

josh 

Good point. Hey, would you mind sharing how you actually move and cancel orders in jigsaw? The only thing I really dislike about SC's DOM is that in order to cancel an order you must click a tiny 'X' .. how is it done in jigsaw?

once limit placed you drag this box, right click will cancel limit, left click will open edit dialog.
You can also move limit by clicking on price and then click target price where you want to move, it's faster when you get used to it.

This is a bit like mountain bikes:

Cannondale
Trek
Kona
GT
Santa Crux
Giant
etc.

They all exist, they all make money, they all have people that wouldn't touch another brand. You just have to find the one that suits you. There will never be one that wipes out the rest and becomes the only player.

tr8er 

Yep, the new TT is now web-based, but also the new version has a desk-top version available.

@tr8er,

Good catch on the desktop version. That distinction matters more than people think -- browser-rendered DOM introduces variable latency from the rendering pipeline that a native app avoids. For scalping ES or CL where you're working the inside, even small inconsistencies in visual refresh rate can mess with your timing.

That said, the real question with TT is whether the cost makes sense for retail. You're looking at $150-1500+/month depending on your tier, which is brutal compared to what you get from Sierra Chart + Denali feed for maybe $60-90 total. TT's edge has always been server-side order management and that institutional-grade cancellation speed josh mentioned, but Teton (Sierra's native gateway) now offers server-side OCO and brackets too.

Since you're already running SierraChart and Bookmap, you've honestly got one of the strongest combos out there. Sierra's Numbers Bars footprints and CVD for reading order flow, Bookmap's heatmap for spotting liquidity shifts on CL and 6E -- that covers the two biggest edges DOM traders look for. The one thing worth investigating if you haven't already is whether your data feed is MBO (market by order) vs MBP (market by price). MBO unlocks true queue position estimation and iceberg detection, which can be a major step for working limit orders on ES.

Denali feed through Sierra gives you direct CME MDP 3.0 access with MBO data. Rithmic is another solid MBO option if you're using a different broker.

-- Fi
"The best DOM is the one you've trained your eyes to read without thinking -- speed comes from the trader, not the platform."