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 CosmicC 
Metairie,la
 
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I am having success trading the algorithmic system. I am trading the 1 min.

What system have you found to work best for you?


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Altentrader
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I am having success trading the algorithmic system. I am trading the 1 min.

What system have you found to work best for you?

Still having success? If not, try a market that actually shows volatility. The ES is most likely one of the worst markets to day trade since it hardly moves.

Good luck!


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 Henning993 
Osnabrück, Germany
 
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...The ES is most likely one of the worst markets to day trade since it hardly moves...

Just my opinion of course, but I disagree.
The ES can move nicely, especially during the US session.
I for one day-traded oil (CL)...and after a while I realized that the high volatility apparently sometimes scared me (for the lack of a better word) to an extent that I often prematurely fiddled with my stop loss (moving it to break even +1 too soon, resulting in often being taken out of the trade there, prior to a move in the anticipated direction). So, that's why I switched to the ES.

And there are plenty of traders who even day-trade treasuries (and I think we all agree that watching those sometimes feels like watching paint dry), John Grady being a well-known example; and I also have a trading friend who is very successfully day-trading treasuries now (after he got sick of getting stopped out by price spikes too often when he still traded CL).

So, I think it is a matter of each one's personality.
And of course it also depends on the trading approach; someone who scalps for a few ticks on each trade, only, couldn't care less whether the product he/she trades makes bigger moves or not.

Just my 2 cents


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Altentrader
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Just my opinion of course, but I disagree.
The ES can move nicely, especially during the US session.
I for one day-traded oil (CL)...and after a while I realized that the high volatility apparently sometimes scared me (for the lack of a better word) to an extent that I often prematurely fiddled with my stop loss (moving it to break even +1 too soon, resulting in often being taken out of the trade there, prior to a move in the anticipated direction). So, that's why I switched to the ES.

And there are plenty of traders who even day-trade treasuries (and I think we all agree that watching those sometimes feels like watching paint dry), John Grady being a well-known example; and I also have a trading friend who is very successfully day-trading treasuries now (after he got sick of getting stopped out by price spikes too often when he still traded CL).

So, I think it is a matter of each one's personality.
And of course it also depends on the trading approach; someone who scalps for a few ticks on each trade, only, couldn't care less whether the product he/she trades makes bigger moves or not.

Just my 2 cents

You are allowed to disagree mate, no worries.


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trade5000
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I find for intraday trades the 1 min and VWAP works best for me after I have established my long bias or short bias for the session based on the daily and hourly chart



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I am having success trading the algorithmic system. I am trading the 1 min.

What system have you found to work best for you?


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Dayvid23
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I agree with that. The ES offers up plenty of opportunities throughout the day.


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 Oriole 
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I find for intraday trades the 1 min and VWAP works best for me after I have established my long bias or short bias for the session based on the daily and hourly chart

Are you using a VWAP with the standard deviation bands?


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