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Is this argument serious? Wyckoff must be turning in his grave right now trying to get out of there and burn his books.
I understand that you may have missed some of what I wrote in the first comment, but I said that I am studying. This requires at least 6 months of intense practice in something that is new. New information for you.
And yes, I have been profitable in trading for over 5 years and I always want to learn something new. Thank you for your interest in knowing.
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just saying what works for me. And seeing people who say that ice cream is bad but have never tried it. But they are sure that it is bad.
But since you're proposing this path, let's make things easier then. Tell me who you learned trading from and show me where he shows his real results and I'll assume that everything I said was completely wrong.
Oh, no. I don't think there is, right? That's right. That's called a paradox.
It is interesting to note that people who criticize something without knowing it do not realize the paradox in this. They do not ask themselves where the proof is that the method they use today to trade works. Peter Steidlmayer created Market Profile but it was Jim Dalton who made the most money with it. Does anyone create a topic to find out where the proof is that it is profitable? I have not seen it yet. Why? Simply because it is not popular.
But there is a very recent example, before the ICT, which was something popular and he was charged about it, which is Al Brooks. Even so, it was not so much because the ICT has a channel with hundreds of subscribers today on YouTube and clearly this popularity draws attention both to those who like it and to those who are envious. It is herd behavior.
So here is a simple challenge.
1) Show proof of the creator of the trading method you use (and that you may even be successful with it).
It is hard for me to agree with below, simply because amount of subscribers do not reflect the level of education and the cost is not justifiable either.
If you know what marketing & Sales you will know that good salesperson can sell anything. You are forgetting biggest human factor. People are lazy to do their work by nature. They prefer to rely on someone to do the work. This is why they become an easy target and can easily fall for the trap.
Number of subscribers means nothing. If you are good entertainer and smooth talker you are popular, don't forget Youtuber does the video's that sells or what popular, because their goal is not to teach you but get money off you and Youtube itself.
Let me tell you, I learn much more from people who has few thousand subscribers and information is free.
I am also interested what are his main customers? I mean the age bracket. I can make an assumption that it is "Get reach Quick" who doesn't putted an effort to put time into any of the books listed and study it to the bone.
The examples you provided makes sense, only when individual is actually got to the bottom of concept and understand when this concept is working and under what market conditions etc. I can also agree that the person can be a not good as a trader but can be an amazing teacher. I am yet to actually to see how many of his trainees succeeded based on his training and how many actually realised that they waste money for nothing. All I can see on youtube that ICT is a scam. Three years in raw he went for competition and he didn't last a week.
Personally, I don't care who pays ICT for his courses and what they are getting out of it.
This is just my humble opinion and I'm still a learner but may be when I reach the advance level like yours my opinion will change.
I am open to anything that can improve my trading.
What is being said here is: The method is bad because the guy is not successful with his own method. And they say this as if all traders who use methods that “work” are successful with it. Funny.
What I mean is that people attack people, and at the same time they also attack the method without knowing it. If this person is popular, he will be attacked more because he exposes himself more. I hope I have explained this point well.
I'll give you a very simple example: Imagine that I'm a great composer, I understand all the techniques, but when it comes to singing, my voice is terrible. So I make my music available for you to interpret in any way you want and you make money with it.
I'm not saying that this method is the best of all and that it will work for me, but at least I'll go all the way through the process so I can say. What's hard to understand is the judgment of something that based on reviews you saw on YouTube.
And the best part is that I'm not paying anything for it. Many people record these courses and make them available for free in Telegram groups.
My proposal is simple, show me the proof of success coming from any “trading method creator” that any of you use.
That way we will be on the same page.
pd: I know they won’t show it, they start a discussion in the thread and when they are confronted with something concrete, they prefer not to answer the questions asked.
I love you, man.
And I didn't steal anything. Read the sentence again.
That said, are you going to answer my question or are you going to keep fishing for random phrases?
Let me know. It's tiring trying to have a dialogue with someone who starts a conversation with you and then hides.
I didn't know that downloading content from YouTube was illegal. As far as I know this is 100% legal for personal use. But you who know everything could tell us if it is true or not.
What I downloaded from Telegram are the organized videos from the Photon course that he makes available FOR FREE on YouTube. As far as I know, what he charges is for personalized mentoring which I don't recommend buying at least if you are lazy.
I don't learn anything from ICT. The only thing I know about him is that he created the concept and that he doesn't know how to use his own method.
I even mentioned this in the comment where you mentioned me and started these conversations. But I'm not surprised that you were, again, making pre-judgments without knowing what you're talking about.
And the only thing I see here are people who give their opinions on things they don't know anything about. Again, doing false accusation against me without asking the right questions beforehand.
There are 3 types of people in any business: Those who want to help, those who scam, and those who want to disturb. I'm enjoying this topic because here we have these 3 types of people.
And to help those who want to know more about the concept, I'll leave this link below so that everyone can watch for free a trade that I just made in NQ based on this concept.
I'll leave here, again, the question I asked so you don't forget: Do you have any other teacher who shows their trades live and who is profitable?
