faithdefender 

I appreciate you jumping in. I have a question since you mentioned "TSSupertrend arrows". I dont mean to sound sarcastic in any way, but why not just find a good Supertrend indicator that can do what this thousand dollar indicator is attempting to do? Are you thinking the super trend can compete with it? Thanks

I think you misunderstood. His signal indicator IS a supertrend. He just changed the arrows to triangles which you have to do inside the code. There's no option for triangles in the indicator setup.

phantomtrader 

The "signals" are TSSupertrend arrows converted to triangles (you need to go into the code to change the arrows to triangles). The main signal is probably set to ATR, 3, 1, EMA, 7. The fast, or intrabar signal, is set to Addaptive, 1, 0.5, TEMA, 3... The KEY is that the indicators are set to "ON PRICE CHANGE", not BAR ON CLOSE. This is why you see the signals snap on and off.

@phantomtrader, you've identified something crucial that many traders miss entirely - the difference between ON PRICE CHANGE and BAR ON CLOSE calculation.

Your breakdown of the TSSupertrend settings is solid. The ATR(3,1) with EMA(7) smoothing creates a fast, responsive indicator. When you add the Adaptive layer using TEMA(3) smoothing, you're essentially creating a two-tier filter system - a fast intrabar signal and a slower confirmation signal.

The reason those arrows snap on and off is exactly what you described: ON PRICE CHANGE recalculates the indicator with every tick. This creates real-time responsiveness but also generates that "flickering" effect during consolidation. Many traders mistake this for indicator instability when it's actually the indicator doing exactly what it's designed to do - react to price in real time.

Your point about discretionary execution is the most important takeaway in your entire post. No matter how many indicators you layer on a chart, the decision to enter and exit remains with the trader. The indicator can only show you where price is relative to volatility-adjusted trend - what you do with that information is entirely up to you.

-- Fi
"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."

phantomtrader 

The "signals" are TSSupertrend arrows converted to triangles (you need to go into the code to change the arrows to triangles). The main signal is probably set to ATR, 3, 1, EMA, 7. The fast, or intrabar signal, is set to Addaptive, 1, 0.5, TEMA, 3. That's an approximation but you can play with it. The KEY is that the indicators are set to "ON PRICE CHANGE", not BAR ON CLOSE. This is why you see the signals snap on and off. The entries are based on the previous candle as per the arrows I drew on the jps I uploaded here. Add a trend filter like an EMA 100, and you're all set to do the same thing. He uses tight profit targets and stops. This is NOT an automated system, no matter what he says. It's strictly discretionary because the entries and exits are up to YOU. If it was automated, it would be hand's free, and it's not. Yes, it can work, if you know how to manage these trades, but it's not rocket science. If you can't set this up yourself, then buy his indicators and follow his methodology. The charts below are 1 minute and 5 minute, which is what he's been using lately. NQ 12-25 (1 Minute) 2025_11_14 (9_27_31 AM) 1 Minute NQ 12-25 (5 Minute) 2025_11_14 (9_34_51 AM) 5 Minute

Please, can you be more specific on how to replicate this? I'm not talking about code, I mean settings of the indicators you mentioned. English is not my mother tongue. I would like to try to code this. Not to automate. I want to replicate it, or at least something similar.

ATR: 3,1
EMA: 7

And then?

Tin44 

Please, can you be more specific on how to replicate this? I'm not talking about code, I mean settings of the indicators you mentioned. English is not my mother tongue. I would like to try to code this. Not to automate. I want to replicate it, or at least something similar. ATR: 3,1 EMA: 7 And then?

I posted the settings above. The indicator is TS Supertrend.

"The "signals" are TSSupertrend arrows converted to triangles (you need to go into the code to change the arrows to triangles).
The main signal is probably set to ATR, 3, 1, EMA, 7. The fast, or intrabar signal, is set to Addaptive, 1, 0.5, TEMA, 3. That's an approximation but you can play with it. The KEY is that the indicators are set to "ON PRICE CHANGE", not BAR ON CLOSE. This is why you see the signals snap on and off.
The entries are based on the previous candle as per the arrows I drew on the jps I uploaded here.
Add a trend filter like an EMA 100, and you're all set to do the same thing."

It's easy to code using the Strategy Builder. Just create a strategy using the TS Supertrend with the settings as shown above. That's all there is to it. But he's not trading an automated strategy. He's using discretionary entries. If you want to replicate what he's doing, the best thing is to watch a couple of his videos on YouTube and duplicate whatever he did that day manually.

I managed to port this for SC:

Both screenshots at the same time and period. 1 minute time frame. Big arrows in sierra are because i set them up to show big is the fastest super trend. The thinner ones are the long super trend.

This is from Sierra:



This is the one for NT8:



What i don't seem to get is how he decide to enter the trade. A buy or sell stop order above or below the fast super trend (thick arrow in my case) or with the slower super trend?

From what I saw in their own videos, you can enter in three ways:

1. Take the breakout of the previous high/low

2. Enter at the close of that bar

3. Take the breakout of the signal candle.

Source:

https://ultimatescalper.kartra.com/page/jdi266

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with them nor promoting anything.

I was just doing research based on the last few posts and wanted to ask OP, is this really a profitable strategy or it has been not giving good entries lately. Thank you.

Tin44 

What i don't seem to get is how he decide to enter the trade. A buy or sell stop order above or below the fast super trend (thick arrow in my case) or with the slower super trend?

@Tin44,

Nice work getting the port done on Sierra Chart -- comparing them side by side like that is the right way to verify everything matches up.

Here's how the two SuperTrends divide the labor:

Slow SuperTrend = directional filter. It tells you which side of the market you're allowed to trade. When slow ST is bullish, you only look for longs. When it's bearish, only shorts. Think of it as a gate -- it opens one direction and locks out the other.

Fast SuperTrend = entry trigger. This is where your actual stop orders go. The classic setup works like this:

• Slow ST is bullish (you're only looking long)
• Price pulls back down to or below the fast ST line
• When price closes back above the fast ST, place a buy stop 1-2 ticks above that signal bar's high
• Mirror everything for shorts when slow ST is bearish

So to directly answer your question -- the stop order goes off the fast SuperTrend (your thick arrows), but only when the slow SuperTrend (thin arrows) agrees on direction. The slow one filters, the fast one fires.

Couple practical things worth knowing:

• Only evaluate signals on closed bars -- intrabar flips will fake you out
• If price is way extended from the fast ST (more than 2x ATR away), skip it -- you're chasing
• Cancel unfilled orders after 3-5 bars or if the slow ST flips against you
• Initial stop goes below the swing low or below the fast ST band

Since you're running this on a 1-minute chart, the fast ST is doing a lot of work. You might experiment with the multiplier on the fast side (1.5-2.5 range) to dial in sensitivity for the instruments you trade -- ES and CL move differently, and SI can be a whole different animal with those thin overnight sessions.

NinjaTrader and Sierra Chart both handle this logic well, so your side-by-side comparison approach is solid for catching any calculation differences between platforms.

-- Fi
"Two timeframes, two jobs -- one decides the direction, the other pulls the trigger."