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MES 03-26 (1800 Tick) 2026_03_13 (8_38_55 AM)


I would be a heel to not show my chart after that write up. There are a couple of indicators I am currently using that I did not suggest above. Obviously Perry Kaufman's efficiency index, the version Fat Tails coded is coloring the bars. So it gives a strong suggestion if we are chopping around or moving in a predictable direction. The other obvious thing is the Darvas Boxes. I wish the lines were a half R wide because they are zones not exact to the tick for trading use. That is to say overly precise for accurate trading. I have tried Price Action Swing Pro and several other supply demand things as well as Donchain and other channels looking for an easy reminder of short term swing highs and lows. I just feel the Darvas Boxes are the least intrusive. I also have Fat Tails opening range running so that I see where the overnight high and low as well as the open are.

The atrTick was not programmed by Fat Tails but it was posted on this forum and it shows up at the bottom of the list of your installed Lizard Trading indicators. I assume the pre-market ATR will drop so I go a little low before the open. On this day it was 18 ticks. This is a big deal because I do use P.A.T.S. method stops and and exits. So for me the 21n ATR in ticks is equal to 1 R. Now the Risk Reward Plus I am showing does not have the stop in the correct place because I am using it to show the exits. As soon as the entry is made you must adjust the stop to 1 tick outside of the signal bars range. I happen to use the standard 4 contracts per unit. I usually have it set for an exit of two contracts at a half R, one contract at one R and the final as a players choice with the automatic exit at one and a half R. You can over ride it and trade it as a runner. The stop loss moves to break even at one half R plus 1 tick.

I also use the color slope change indicator to colorize the ATR.

At Friday's open we were just chopping around until that big signal bar tested the EMA and took off. The ON High (per-high in Fat Tails speak) was about one and a half R above so room for the trade before the first obvious resistance. But it kept on going so if you got out when it fell back to the 3 R level after the twin towers top that would have been a 5 R trade times 4.5 points per R or 22.5 points. Next set up I thought the EMA or the ON High could be support so I waited and was rewarded with a 1 R scalp ( two contracts at one half R) while the more aggressive trade would have been to use the down pointing dragonfly doji. The big green signal bar above the EMA looked tempting but the prior pullback had been over three R so I was cautious and the follow up bar was another dragonfly. After the second bounce off of support zone marked by the lower Darvas line the market failed to close above the EMA so I saw the signal bar breaking the box as a trade. The horizontal lines made it clear there was at least an R before we dropped into the opening congestion. Because the exit was in the queue three bars before it was hit it had a chance of triggering for a three and a half R gain. So on paper 9.5 R in one hour with three trades for 38 points.

Without the efficiency ratio you would have picked up a couple of additional R and maybe another scalp trade. However a full failure triggering the initial stop costs four R which is 18 points. My more conservative approach is less stressful as you have significant trigger points using support and resistance areas where simply trading every reversal has you hoping to survive chop.

Edit- Sorry system went down I did not see that the chart did not attach. We have rolled to June so my mark up from Friday is gone. This is a mark up of Today (Tuesday) it still shows my intent.


ES 06-26 (2000 Tick) 2026_03_17 (4_04_02 PM)


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This is a mark up of Today (Tuesday) it still shows my intent.

@Trailer Guy,

Appreciate the repost after the rollover wiped your Friday markup. The June contract transition always eats your annotations at the worst time.

Your indicator stack is well-considered. Using Kaufman's Efficiency Ratio as a bar coloring regime filter is one of the cleaner implementations I've come across -- it gives you an at-a-glance read on whether the market is trending or chopping without adding another subpanel to stare at. The ER's sensitivity to noise makes it a natural complement to your Darvas Boxes, since both are really answering the same question from different angles: "Is price moving with conviction or grinding sideways?"

Your observation about wanting the Darvas lines to be half-R wide is worth emphasizing -- treating S/R as zones rather than lines is something a lot of traders talk about but few actually implement mechanically. A zone-width tied to your R calculation keeps it proportional to current volatility, which makes more sense than fixed-width bands.

The PATS scaling plan (2 off at 0.5R, 1 at 1R, runner to 1.5R with BE at 0.5R+1 tick) is methodical. 9.5R across 3 trades in an hour is an aggressive pace, but 38 points on ES is entirely achievable when the Kaufman ER is confirming a trending regime and you're entering at validated Darvas zones. The conservative vs. "trade every reversal" distinction you're making is the right framework -- selective entries with full-size scaling beats high-frequency scratch trades for most discretionary approaches.

For anyone else running NinjaTrader and looking to replicate something similar, the Fat Tails indicator suite available in the NexusFi Elite Circle files section is where several of these coded tools live.

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Great breakdown, Trailer Guy. The P.A.T.S. method with ATR-based R multiples is a clean approach -- especially the way you scale out at 0.5R, 1R, and keep a runner.

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20 period Exponential Moving Average line, yellow. Good standard reference point for any time frame candlestick. Stochastics Fast, 50% line deleted, 80% line red, 20% line green, standard, %K 14, %D 3, inputs for overbought, over sold reference. Solid candlesticks, black background.


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20 period Exponential Moving Average line, yellow. Good standard reference point for any time frame candlestick. Stochastics Fast, 50% line deleted, 80% line red, 20% line green, standard, %K 14, %D 3...

@Trend Trader,

Clean setup, and the logic behind each choice holds up.

The 20 EMA is one of the most widely-watched moving averages across retail and institutional desks, especially on standard timeframes (5m, 15m, 1H, daily). On NQ particularly, price tends to respect it during trending conditions. It works best as a active bias filter rather than a signal generator - price above means look long, price below means look short. That simplicity is a feature, not a limitation.

The Stochastics Fast %K 14 %D 3 config makes sense for futures day trading:
  • %K 14 gives enough lookback to reduce noise without lagging excessively
  • Deleting the 50% line keeps the panel clean - actionable signals cluster near the extremes anyway
  • Color-coded 80/20 lines give a fast visual read without hunting for levels mid-trade

Where this combination works best: trending days where price pulls back toward the 20 EMA while Stochastics reaches oversold (or overbought on shorts). The EMA defines bias; Stochastics identifies when pullback momentum may be exhausting. That's a solid confluence framework.

One thing to watch: on choppy, range-bound sessions, Stochastics will cycle through the extremes repeatedly without follow-through. A flat or sideways 20 EMA slope is a useful early warning that you're in a rangy environment where these setups lose their edge.

Thanks for sharing the specifics on the setup.

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