Dolfin 

I,m working with GOld the spi on the asx and the ES contract... was also doing the CL contract crude oil but had to drop one off my list as it was getting too complicaed keeping up...tho atm doing charting with the asx 200 for the spi gold/usd spot price and the S&P 500 cash for the ES as i still havent workied out how to keep the charts working properly between contracts.... ( its sometimes the simple things that elude me) lol

Hi @Dolfin - Sounds like you've got a LOT going on. Are you hand charting all of these?

Nixem 

Hi @Dolfin - Sounds like you've got a LOT going on. Are you hand charting all of these?

I was handcharting all of them tho i,ve now dropped back to the spi and gold ... my data comes from interactive brokers account for the xjo 200 which i,m using for tracking the spi contract... tho IB doesnt give me data for the gold index only for the futures contracts ( which i mentioned earlier was giving me a headache in obtaining correct data to keep charts updated properly as it jumped from one monthly contract to the next) so i,ve been taking data from the gold usd spot price to alleviate the issue... maybe its not the best way forward...but thats where i am atm... (any advice on this is always welcomed) i,ve tried to use 1 x1 and 2 x 1 gann lines on my computer but they dont seem to stay aligned over time...i,m sure there is an easy technique to deal with this ...in my settings perhaps...which is why i have been focused on hand drawn charts.. untill i get them right i doubt i,ll get the computerized ones on the charts correctly either...cheers Dolfin

Dolfin 

i,ve tried to use 1 x1 and 2 x 1 gann lines on my computer but they dont seem to stay aligned over time...i,m sure there is an easy technique to deal with this

@Dolfin,

The angle drift is one of the most common headaches in computerized Gann work, and it's not you doing anything wrong -- it's a fundamental issue with how most platforms handle chart scaling.

Here's the problem: NinjaTrader rescales your chart automatically when you scroll or zoom. When that happens, the visual angle shifts even though the underlying calculation stays the same. A 1x1 line drawn at what looks like 45 degrees will appear to lean differently after you zoom out. The angle calculation didn't change -- the chart's price-to-time ratio did.

The fix is manual chart scaling -- locking the points-per-bar ratio so the chart can't rescale itself. In NinjaTrader, dig into the chart properties and look for scaling options. You want to set a fixed price scale rather than letting it auto-scale. I'm not certain of the exact path in your specific version, but once you lock that ratio, your angles should hold position regardless of how you scroll or zoom.

On the gold data question -- using XAU/USD spot is actually a solid approach for Gann work. Futures contracts introduce rollover gaps that distort the continuous price history, which is the last thing you want when you're drawing long-term angles. Spot gives you an unbroken series. That's not a workaround -- that's the right call.

And the hand-charting foundation you're building is exactly right. Get the geometry correct manually first. Once you know what a properly scaled 1x1 should look like on paper, you'll immediately spot when the software isn't holding it correctly.

Have a good weekend!

-- Fi

"A 1x1 line is a ratio first, an angle second -- fix the scale, and the angle takes care of itself."

Dolfin 

hi nixem thanks for gettingback tomy question... ihave had limited studies of sitm using gann style interpretation... i,m attempting to draw charts ie Gold and xjo spi and looking at the wheat chart shortly... with understanding thetiming of gann and bowdens research ihe charts were 1 to 1 re points and days weeks etc to plot squares and also 1x1 and 2 1 lines etc but with the massive price movements i,m strugglingwith how to set up these kind of charts in the present time frames.. with daily charts ive used 10 points per square for price and 1 point per day for time.. but how owud i set up the scale fror a weekly chart ...to put on the 1 x1 lines etc...cheers Dolfin also sorry for not responding earlier to this.. ive had quite a few pc issues which have distracted me in checking up on this platform ...thanks again for your input.. most welcomed...

Hi Nixem & Dolfin, I’m a new member to NexusFi and this thread came up when I searched Gann/David Bowden trading. I studied the Safety in the Market (SITM) Starter Pack over 25 years ago! I did the hand charting and manual following of markets! In my first real trade I lost $600, which knocked my confidence as I was a young first home owner and parent at the time! 25 years on, I’m now demo trading gold on Starter Pack rules and really enjoying it! I use Trading View for my analysis and Meta 5 to put my trades on. Really keen to know how you are both going if you’re still on here, as I note this thread is from June 2025. Do either of you use the SITM software Profit Source and, if so, how do you find it? Does it find suitable A-B-C setups across various markets, and how much does the live data cost? Would be keen to hear from you as to which markets you trade, and how you are going success wise. Regards, SITM Trader.