Welcome to NexusFi: the best trading community on the planet, with over 150,000 members Sign Up Now for Free
Genuine reviews from real traders, not fake reviews from stealth vendors
Quality education from leading professional traders
We are a friendly, helpful, and positive community
We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts
We are here to help, just let us know what you need
You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community. It's free for basic access, or support us by becoming an Elite Member -- see if you qualify for a discount below.
-- Big Mike, Site Administrator
(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)
Well - as I know Gary and have had beers with him (in Soi 6, no less), I can say this...
He trains very few people. He's just a guy that worked as a professional trader since the age of 18. He's not well known throughout the retail trading world because he has no real desire to be in it.
If you go to him with 10k in the bank and a desperate need to use that to trade and live off - he'll politely refuse you. If you are well capitalized and have your head screwed on, he will teach you.
I spoke to him about mass-producing a course but he truly believes the only way to get someone profitable is one to one. Shame because market making is a lost art - even in prop firms.
The teaching isn't full time, it's not his main gig. His main gig is consulting to funds & the like.
I am not sure how to prove he is who he says he is. I'm a vendor, so I probably just made it worse...
If you have any questions about the products or services provided, please send me a Private Message or use the futures.io " Ask Me Anything" thread
I will note this is also of my interest and have emailed with Gary. He seems genuine but of course wants to run you through up to three courses which will potentially be $10,000. He doesn't provide "ad hoc guidance" in his term to retail traders.
There is a reviewer of his book on Amazon who according to Gary took his training. I have put a comment on his review and perhaps he will come around these parts and provide more information.
Here is quote from Gary via private email to me:
"I teach a few, selected retail traders each year. The review you saw from Bob who is one of my clients. Bob had taken many courses before and I think was really impressed with what I taught him."
Here is a link to the Amazon review and my comment regarding same:
I heard about him via Pete and read his book as well as watching videos found here and elsewhere on the net. Do not question his integrity but of course the buy-in to find out if what he is teaching works for you is quite significant.
As an update I was under a misinterpretation. I have left this original content verbatim and followup corrected in a posting below regarding there only being ONE course on Scalping.
I Don't know the 10G you're talking about. The scalping course is only 3G something taken from OFA, where taken directly from him is a bit more, differences between the 2 is not mentioned and forgot to ask. It can go to 10G if you're taking other courses offered there but they are not taught by Gary and it's not mandatory to take.
And as far as his technique, I did find something similar word market making in one of the online course offered in australia. The owner was kind enough to give me free pdf of this drill. Please don't ask me to share with you guys because he mentioned not to share it with anybody. Search it and ask the owner yourself.
The only thing I can share imho is this tehnique is more suitable in slow trading hours. I haven't spent enough doing the drill, but from the result i gathered so far, cheaper commissions is a must.
I believe it might be somewhat similar to what Gary's offered, but you kind of have an idea it's also different because i believe it's tailored specifly for general retail traders.
i started working for a prop firm this week and they teach a market maker style of trading. capturing the spread and in addition if you know how to use different ecn s even when you scratch a trade you can get the rebate.
but this style of trading doesnt fit my personality.
Well that is one question I had for him, asking how one catches a single lot poor retail trader buy at Bid for example if it is ES and there are hundreds of orders on the Bid already. I said could see how could sit with Limit order on the Bid and if filled flip it to the Offer on Limit, and ride a trend that way a bit. But he did not respond beyond suggesting disclosure would involve becoming a client.
---
And regarding not trusting people unless they have broker statements, I have little doubt he is doing fine with this technique. However I have spent enormous time investigating and trying to follow others who have written numerous books, have their own terminology, trading room, trading courses and yet when asked if they will provide tangible evidence they are making money with these involved techniques plead they can't because (fill in the blank here).. Or others who claim to make trades in low float stocks where the stocks never even trade at the prices they state they get filled at with large volumes..
Thankfully there are people out there who will work to verify for good or bad those offering vendor services, this industry seems pretty darn large and totally Wild West. Students trying to learn at least have forums like this one where ideas can be exchanged as well as experience with various techniques and teachings.. I have hundreds of books have read but as the Market is changed with algos, HFT and most importantly Central Banks most of those old "rules for traders" are entirely obsolete.
Finally as have gotten older realize in many areas of life these days there are more people who either consciously or unconsciously are not quite as honest as we were taught to be on the moral front. Or they have been mislead and mis-taught over decades such as am finding in researching holistic health care and cancer prevention/treatment type topics. And let's not even start on Politics..