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July 15th, 2010, 02:54 PM
East Rochester, NY
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Be aware that one of my customers showed me, side by side, where T&S data from Zen-Fire and TT were sometimes polar opposites. Meaning a block order on the ask side on one would show as a bid order on the other, and not just one time either. Beware.
Dan
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July 15th, 2010, 03:39 PM
Sweden
Experience: Master
Platform: TT, NT, MetaTrader
Broker: Velocity Futures, MB Trading
Trading: EUR/USD
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Danny,
So what do you mean? That this all thing is a big fraud?! Who's lying? I thought these things happened only in Forex!
We all struggle to make tomorrow look like yesterday!
Get rid of your past and let the future unfold from the now.
Past performance is not indicative of future results.
/George
July 15th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Italy (IT) Italy
Experience: Advanced
Platform: ATAS, R|Trader, NT8
Broker: Rithmic
Trading: CL, Brent, GC, TF
Frequency: Daily
Duration: Minutes
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George
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I've had my NT connected to my TT, but not the live version, the simulator version. No difference here, only different servers. Sim was also live.
What can I tell you about this?
Well, I had CL up in order to compare the two. The two meaning XTrader live version vs NT+TT (sim). Remember sim is live!
What happened?
When CL was trading light, meaning during the European morning session, the both worked identical. No lag, no freezing, just fine and stable.
When the US markets opened and CL started to trade heavy, especially during news periods.
The NT doom with sim feed, could never keep up with the Xtrader live version. It normally, kind of got overheated, and it started to lag with ticks. It had a lag of 1 second up to 3-4.
This was very annoying, so I decided to try out the Zen-Fire demo (also live feed, for a limited amount of time).
NT could see the light again! Now it worked, and Ninja+Zen-Fire could keep up with XTrader live version. No more freezing and lag.
My conclusion!
But remeber this is just my observation, and it's subjective. In case we get more people to follow, then it means that NT works best with Zen-Fire. So in case you want to use Ninja then it's better with Zen-Fire. If you want to go for XTrader, then use it as an independent front end, and look for a charting aplication outside. Of course you can still use NT but you'd need to get feed that's compatible.
One more thing to be said about the Xtrader. You can only be connected to one exchange at a time.
That's kind of it. I hope I've added to the equation!
This is cos NT connects to Zen_Fire thru API and for connects to TT it uses FIX protocol that is not the most efficent protocol.
Xtrader is direct connected to the exchange and may is the best choise for speed and reliability.
Luke.
Take your Pips , go out and Live .
Luke.
July 15th, 2010, 06:17 PM
Los Angeles, CA
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Hopefully the Kinetick data feed goes live soon. I was thinking of using that with Velocity to avoid having to use the TT feed.
July 15th, 2010, 06:31 PM
Italy (IT) Italy
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Platform: ATAS, R|Trader, NT8
Broker: Rithmic
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eDanny
Be aware that one of my customers showed me, side by side, where
T&S data from Zen-Fire and TT were sometimes polar opposites. Meaning a block order on the ask side on one would show as a
bid order on the other, and not just one time either. Beware.
Dan
We are aware that this happens look here
George
Danny,
So what do you mean? That this all thing is a big fraud?! Who's lying? I thought these things happened only in Forex!
No fraud, only defference from feeds and how platforms handle bid and ask data.
Luke.
Take your Pips , go out and Live .
Luke.
July 15th, 2010, 06:33 PM
Italy (IT) Italy
Experience: Advanced
Platform: ATAS, R|Trader, NT8
Broker: Rithmic
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Jason11
Hopefully the Kinetick data feed goes live soon. I was thinking of using that with Velocity to avoid having to use the TT feed.
BTW u have to trade always with TT.
Luke.
Take your Pips , go out and Live .
Luke.
July 15th, 2010, 07:19 PM
Sweden
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Broker: Velocity Futures, MB Trading
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Luke,
Thanks for adding. But please make me understand this correctly. I lack knowledge about how the API and FIX protocol works. So please, in your opinion, which one is the Best XTrader or Zen-Fire?
Thank you in advance!
LukeGeniol
This is cos NT connects to Zen_Fire thru API and for connects to TT it uses FIX protocol that is not the most efficent protocol.
Xtrader is direct connected to the exchange and may is the best choise for speed and reliability.
Luke.
We all struggle to make tomorrow look like yesterday!
Get rid of your past and let the future unfold from the now.
Past performance is not indicative of future results.
/George
July 15th, 2010, 08:35 PM
las vegas
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Chart
Broker: Velocity/IB
Trading: 6E
Posts: 1,145 since Feb 2010
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Are you dissatisfied with Mirus Gary?
July 16th, 2010, 01:29 AM
QC
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NINJA TRADER
Trading: E MINI RUSSEL AND ES
Posts: 68 since Jun 2010
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what data feed velocity is using and is it better than zen fire or IB?
July 16th, 2010, 01:34 AM
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator Developer Swing Trader
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
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tm10
what data feed velocity is using and is it better than zen fire or IB?
Velocity uses TT (TradingTechnologies) and their FIX Adapter, Financial Information eXchange protocol.
Anything is better than InteractiveBrokers!
See this other thread for a comparison of all the top data feeds:
https://nexusfi.com/elite-circle/3873-analysis-comparison-different-data-feeds-platforms-bid-ask-studies.html
Mike
Last Updated on October 26, 2013