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The writer of the article doesn't bother to consider the possibility that a lot of those searches may actually come from people who voted Remain - and were told continuously that Leave wouldn't happen...No, no - far easier to trash the brits as stupid...
I actually agree with you on the immigration issue. People do not have a natural right to come and settle in anyone else's country, and if a country allows immigrants, the people of that country should be allowed to set the terms or at least have a say. If people feel their 'way of life' is threatened, they have a legitimate reason to be concerned, and it is unfair to paint all of them with a broad 'xenophobic' brush.
My guess is, without the immigration issue, which I think was greatly exacerbated by Merkel's actions, there would still have been an anti-EU contingent in Britain, but I don't think on its own it would have been strong enough to win.
I am neither for or against this result as I don't live there and don't feel I can really judge. But it is hard to go against the will of the people. If they are wrong, they will suffer the most, and if they are right, they will benefit the most. For better or worse, the British people will ultimately be accountable for this vote, and that seems to be the best scenario one can ask for.
I suggest that you that you take your decibels on this argument a little lower and stop working yourself up.
We are just exchanging links here and ideas on a friendly basis!!
No one called anyone "stupid" and whether it came from the "remain" or "exit" is irrelevant! The point was that people are searching for things post a fact they decided on. More than anything, I thought it was funny as human nature.
It is a known fact that people worldwide may vote on things they do not understand the full implications of.
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Certainly not worked up here Matt. Quite the opposite. If you re-read what I said - its a reference to the writer of the article, not you (unless you wrote it ). As an exchange of ideas on a friendly basis - I wrote my opinion of what I consider to be poor journalism.
Paraphrasing the first paragraph...
"...whole world is reeling..."
"...leave campaign leaders are crowing..."
"...yet the people who voted don't know what they voted for..."
that's basically saying the whole world has suffered thanks to some smug b&ggers and the people who haven't got a clue what they're doing. Like I said - without considering the alternative possibilities for the increase in google searches - that's pretty trashy.
You may be misinterpreting the decibel levels - I'm not British - grew up in a hardcore Irish republican area - so if you know anything about the history there - you'll know I'm not saying this because i feel attacked. No - its because I was also an investigative documentary maker in a previous life and I really hate to see lazy trashy journalism. It has a very subtle, cumulative subliminal effect on people's perceptions. Its a little different when its comedy - but this isn't presented as such.
Thanks! Understood. After so many years in the financial business, I don't take most article seriously.
Google changed journalism because most just want to get indexed ASAP to get higher page views in order to sell ads.
They are also written in a fashion where they evoke serious emotions and create arguments about them, and again this creates higher pages views. Sometimes I am (admittedly) sensitive to comments.
I appreciate your background, knowledge and explaining where you come from.
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I think The City has fallen victim to EU-propaganda and their own group-think.
Grow some balls City !
The financial center London will drive outside the EU.
Of course the EUDSSR comrades in Brussels will attempt some punishment and revenge against UK.
As some of you have reported here - they already started.
How can anyone sympathize with an institution that acts this way ?
But they will fail.
I will hide behind this wonderful macro analysis by Peter Zeihan from today.
He brings my/his arguments better across than I could - in better English and with less cynicism:
you are certainly all aware of what is called the "bank passport". The bank passport is a EU regulation that state that any bank that has its head office in a EU country can do business in all the EU. This regulation plus a very favorable tax system was the major reason that have made UK the financial center of Europe.
By exiting the EU this point will be the main discussion point. It will have a major impact on UK economy and will raise a lot of concern also in the rest of the EU. A lot of other countries would be more than happy to see all those head offices coming to them.
It represent 2M jobs and all highest salaries of UK. Of course not all of them are in danger but the most important one are.
Concerning the exportation I don't think it will represent a major issue, UK is at 80% an economy of service and maybe a few car manufacturers will relocate in to EU countries and especially to the one will the cheap labor in Eastern Europe.
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London is the major/a major financial center for more than 200 years.
EU's business is done in London because of that - not the other way around.
As the comment above explains, the EU-Gutmenschen will attempt to force their will onto UK with regulations like this.
But money will move out of EU and people vote with their feet.
It is hubris that creates an argument like this. They think they can force their vision into existence.
But they fail to understand that there are dynamics and trends that are above their control.
I try to speak about fact and regulation not politic or propaganda....
I am retired but believe me I would be very concerned to be a trader in London today.
This is my last post here I have the feeling of speaking gun regulation with a Texan or abortion with a priest
I made a ton of money with the exit and it will certainly offer a lot of other very nice opportunities. But instead of defending our own feeling (and for most of what I read they are in most case naive or completely deformed by political bias) I think that the debate on a trading forum could/should be over financial implications of this vote and not on bashing pro or anti EU.
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