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Mike should have an open few days or one week in the chat room. Let it be free so people can see for themselves. Even something after trading hours if that worked better.
Selfishly, I would much rather have Mike spend his time continuing to improve MBoxwave than deal with all the hassles involved with free trials and the like.
And, even if he did do as you asked, it would still not address the only question that people always seem to ignore - can I make money using this tool (or indicator, or trading education, etc.)? That is the ONLY thing that should matter.
The problem is you can't answer that question unless you pay the non refundable fee.
Would I pay for a new car upfront without being able to test drive it or talk to other owners? Nope.
All the risk is on the consumer. Nothing on Mike. Letting people access a chat room for free costs nothing. Not offering something like that means you have something to hide.
You would think if the students were having great success, why no YouTube videos?
if you would actually go to YouTube and do a Search you would see why
Full disclosure - I am a client of MBox and NO issues at all
Full disclosure from you - why do you have so much anger towards a site you have never investigated? If you don't like it - fine. Get something that suits you. Why waste your time and energy explaining something you are not even using?
You’re not going to be able to answer the only question that matters, i.e. does this fit me / can I make money using it, from a free trial of anything, imo. It takes months, if not years, to develop a system, figure out what market environments it works well in / doesn’t work well in, etc. Not to mention all the things/patterns your subconscious picks up on with experience.
Mike has made a ton of recordings available on YouTube that outline how he uses MBoxwave. It should be enough for a trader to decide - yeah, this supports my beliefs about the market / fits me or no, it doesn’t fit me. I will repeat again - one trader(s) ability to make money using a certain tool / indicator / teacher has little to no correlation to whether YOU can have similar results. There are far too many variables, not the least of which is what is going on in each person(s) head.
MBoxwave “works” exactly as it’s supposed to. Whether an individual trader can derive edge from it is dependent on the trader, how they are using MBoxwave, and (most importantly imo) whether they are psychologically able to act like a professional trader. I will say that if you’re a Wyckoff-oriented trader, MBoxwave can help eliminate some of the subjectivity of the Method.
Back to the free trial part. I have been in the software industry for more years than I care to admit. Every company I’ve worked for that started off with free trials ended up ending the policy. It’s a lot of work for a lot of extra headaches. People that like free tend to be the biggest nightmares to deal with in terms of support, unreasonable demands, etc. It’s a giant time suck.
I have to chime in here. I recently bought the Mbox Wave grandfather package. I've been scammed before (joined the 3000 Club a couple of times years ago before I went my own way). There is no holy grail, Mike doesn't promote that and he's the first to say it. We are all suspicious, rightly so, and the moderators here are excellent and I appreciate their vigilance for the community. But I have to tell you--Mike is the real deal. He has the chops to have programmed this, and given the value, the product and training are pretty amazing, and he supports *everyone* in their questions like no one I have ever seen. I would selfishly like to say no one should ever buy this, only because it is very effective and I don't want the edge eroded. But Mike is deserving my business IMHO (though this is really a side gig for him i think) and he is committed to keeping the research going through updates. This is a legitimately valuable product and approach, and he is very generous in terms of what he teaches and the support he gives. It won't last forever, and I don't blame him for not allowing a demo, because if you watch his videos, and you are at all familiar with the order flow concept, you will likely immediately see the value of what he's done (at least I did). It's a step above everything else out there. Could I spend a huge amount of time re-creating it? Sure, maybe, but why? And I have found him to be nothing but completely honest and straightforward, and a real trader who is sharing what he has learned very freely. Sure, he's a business man, but we all are. So just wanted to put that out there, I have no agenda except I think this is a guy who is very smart and has made something unique and valuable, and wants to teach something that is really cool. I'm happy to talk directly with anyone about it. James
Yes I tend to lurk without posting...so what?...but I thought it was right to say something here. Do you think I signed up for this site 10 years ago and have been waiting here like a sleeper cell? Take what I said for what you want to...I'm just giving you what I've experienced.