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Also there is no "profit target" in combo section in your website ad there is no description about cusotm combine.
your previous website had better information.
All parameters for a custom combine can be negotiated with TST directly.
"If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much." - Jim Rohn
I am a little confused about how certain users say you prefer a specific trading style at Topstep.
Which of these styles do you prefer to see? The trader consistently trading for multiple 2-3 point moves on the ES doing many trades per day, or the trader who is more of a sniper waiting around for a couple solid 4 point + trade setups a day on average. If both traders were pulling in the same amount per week consistently... Why would it matter what their style is?
Basically, they have a profit target and some loss-control rules. I have seen comments to the effect that the loss rules discriminate against one type of trader or another, particularly traders with lower winning percentages who look for big winning trades to make up for it. Some trend-following trading works that way. But that does not mean they prefer scalping, for example. It means they prefer not losing a lot.
It is a particular outlook on trading (don't look for a big home run to pull you out of the hole), but it is pretty broad.
You can read the rules and decide for yourself. I have seen people win the Combine who did a high number of trades, and others who did one a day. They really don't care, so long as you don't lose their money and make a profit.
They periodically publish the (anonymous) trade reports of traders who win the Combine (although I can't find it right now on their new web site), so you can decide. Maybe someone else will have the link.
You can also ask for a custom Combine, with different rules that you propose. I think they want to see good loss control, but they tend to be flexible in what they approve.
This is not meant to be an ad for TsT -- just an answer to your question that isn't directly from them.
And yes, the Combine is worth attempting; the discipline of strong loss rules, and having a small amount of real money at stake (whatever you paid for the Combine, which you may or may not get back, depending on how you do) make it a learning experience, whether you get funded or not.
@Big Mike has said somewhere that the value of the Combine is not so much in getting funded, as in acquiring the discipline, which I think is correct.
Just my 2 cents (or maybe 20 )
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
I read through the rules a couple times. There is only one rule that I can see that pushes people more toward scalping with TST.
It's this one additional junior trader rule here: "I will stop trading for the day if my Realized Net P&L is greater than $350 and my Realized Net P&L has pulled back 50% off my high watermark (realized Net P&L high of the day)."
If your going for many small base hits, a couple bad trades in a row won't bring that rule up.
I see your point, but I just interpret this as more risk control, not a particular bias.
Remember, these guys were successful pit traders for many years. They didn't look to trading to escape their day job, it WAS their day job. So they have a big concern with staying in business for the long haul, which means to not let your inevitable losses sink you.
Again, this is just me. But I do think their emphasis on risk is a good thing.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
I think of their rule set as a thought through framework that can provide a great short cut for many seeking to put their trading business into a realustic proved frame. Won't work for everybody like nothing will but can be a great start.
Hi,
i will be taking your combine program in Jan i guess
i have a few questions about your program
1) I see that your commissions in the combine are 2.50 USD per side.
what are the commissions for a live trader ? the same? . is there any volume based criteria like other FCM's and
is patak trading llc an FCM?
2) can a friend of mine pay the 200$ USD required for the 50k combine, or does it need to come from my own account
3) is the combine duration for 10 or 20 days? profit objective is different for both?
4) as per your website you become a senior trader when max trailing drawdown reaches 0
ex. for a 50k account , you become a senior trader, when your account crosses 52k USD ?
am i correct?
5) Once you reach 80% split after reaching 30k USD in profits, can you be moved back to 70% split if your profit comes below 30k USD?
6) can i do long term trades (not intra day) after building up my account /senior trader?
7) do you have a electronic trading floor i can join somewhere?