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The current socket 1150 E series V3 Xeon CPU's and the current socket 1150 i5 and i7 CPU's are both Haswell generation. Xeons are are higher binned (ie they are the pick of the crop) and can support ECC memory, other than that, they are the same CPU
I had nothing against doing that, but the xeon was more for bang for the buck based on what I found. And they were released at the same time, have nearly identical specifications. It made it all day today. I may run the burn test tomorrow. The biggest hassle is thinking I have it done and connecting it to everything, then realizing I don't, and having to put it back together the other way. It is fully hooked up as of last night again.
How's the new system working? Building something similar with a Xeon, what were the specific settings that needed to be changed/where are they in the data sheet?
The problem was not fully eliminated. It got better, meaning it would run for roughly 12 hours, but then something incredibly simple would send it back to the restart cycle. I wound up returning everything while I still had time. I am starting over with the new motherboard, and the processor was a replacement only policy, so they are shipping me another one. I am not sure if I will break the seal on the new box or sell the processor. In writing, that xeon is an incredible component, and the tests I ran showed the same thing, but not knowing what caused the issue makes me hesitant.
I did go through Asus' QVL and reduce it down to the very few dual channel, 8GB and higher, that had 4 DIMM support and ran at 1.5v (which is what the Xeon calls for). I attached it here as a PDF. I had read in some online discussion about issues caused by ram that was not listed. I am going with the ADATA ending in DB, being the only choice that checked all boxes for 16GB on the QVL.
The settings that were defaulted incorrectly for me related to RAM timing and GPU power, the RAM issue will be resolved by the new 9-9-9-24 timing, and the GPU was just me reading every single line to see if it matched the xeon data sheet. The Asus recommended fix was to change the memory speed from 1600 down to 1333, but that did not correct anything.
It ran BEST at 1600mhz, with the timings set to the installed memory specs, and the power saving features of the mobo turned off. That configuration stayed stable for about 24 hours and ran 3 trade platforms (2xSC, 1xNT) plus 4 streaming videos from YouTube, but then as I was getting the charts prepared for the week it crashed, and got deconstructed and re-packaged.
Another thing I just thought of, read the section in the Xeon Data Sheet (attached) about using multiple monitors. Starts at 2.5.2
Intel is very specific about combinations of outputs, and once you add a video card it changes. It did not solve my problem, but once I had two monitors on the mobo and the other two on a card, the colored lines appeared again but only on the screens running off the processor graphics. That said to me something was wrong with the processor, which is how the processor got returned. (It was on mobo #2)
I did find other boxes built with the Xeon/H87 combination that were claimed to work perfectly, both high-end workstations and gaming machines.
Thanks for the update and information, please keep us updated. I'm interested to see if the replacement CPU works correctly for you if you decided to use it, as I had planned on going with the 1245v3 or 1275v3. But if the integrated graphics are the culprit, perhaps it would be more reliable to go with the the model without integrated graphics and just use a dedicated card or two if needed.
Good hunting! I have always found it difficult tracking down configurations with multiple monitors running off the IGP that work flawlessly
Even with Ivy Bridge I have seen complications running more than two monitors. A simple driver upgrade is enough to cause problems.
Dedicated graphics cards have proven to be a robust solution while also making problem solving easier.
Was thinking the IGP would be a good backup even if using discrete card, then saw they now support 3 monitors and thought it could handle it all. Sounds like discrete is the proven reliable solution.
Would you still suggest getting a CPU with IGP as a backup, or skip it entirely and just get two discrete cards to cover a backup?