srgtroy 

Totally agree with you about the blind trust requirement. We actually shouldn't need a law. We should have leaders with the moral clarity to do it voluntary. But obviously, on a practical level, we do need the law, and we need to extend it to Congress as well, given all the Congress people on both sides of the aisle who sold their stocks after a classified Intel briefing.

What we have, which is not enough, is the fact that this kind of thing does tend to come out, and once it goes under the microscope it becomes hard to keep it invisible.

There was no need for a law until now, because it was just the thing to do, as was understood by everyone.

If there is anything to the hydroxychloroquine financial connection, that will be found out eventually. It just shouldn't be something that is even possible.

Same goes for Congress, and anyone in a position of public trust.

Bob.

bobwest 

What we have, which is not enough, is the fact that this kind of thing does tend to come out, and once it goes under the microscope it becomes hard to keep it invisible. There was no need for a law until now, because it was just the thing to do, as was understood by everyone. If there is anything to the hydroxychloroquine financial connection, that will be found out eventually. It just shouldn't be something that is even possible. Same goes for Congress, and anyone in a position of public trust. Bob.

Indeed, a whole lot of norms have been shattered, ones that will now have to be codified into law.

I dont think any and sain person in goverment position have the slightest thought that they need to make money on Corona virus drugs and their Funds is in most cases managed anyway by third party which ofcourse must be okey. Seems this Malaria drug causes that eldery sick people condition can instead worsen rapidly when administered so Sweden stop using it due to an interveiw with a Head doctor weeks ago.

Hydroxychloroquine is not a cure, it effects virus multiplication rate and therefor something recommended for "medical staff" treating large number of corona patients in hospitals so they can reduce rate of virus multiplication due to repeated exposure in their own body. In their case benefit outweighs the risk.

Its problem is that it causes QT prolongation, in layman terms it means "fast chaotic heartbeats".
Which can trigger many more complications, especially if you already have heart related issues.

One other drug called "Ivermectin" is also being tested, its pesticide and its usually used for killing of tapeworms in body, in primary lab testings (not human) its shown to reduce virus multiplication by 100's of folds.

Neither of the above is actually yet recommended treatments on patients as testing is pending. I've no idea why suddenly world went crazy over it and started hoarding, BUT I want to make it abundantly clear here that both of these drugs are extremely dangerous depending on your own body condition, do not self medicate and do not buy them unless your doctor recommends it. It might kill you faster than corona itself if you do that, one doctor in India died due to side effects from Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/coronavirus-in-india-guwahati-doctor-dies-after-allegedly-taking-hydroxychloroquine-1661535-2020-03-30

I'm only posting this to caution people from buying and taking it going by news headlines. Journalism has really gone down the drain worldwide.
Stay safe, don't self medicate and don't panic. This will go away.

LastDino 

Hydroxychloroquine is not a cure, it effects virus multiplication rate and therefor something recommended for "medical staff" treating large number of corona patients in hospitals so they can reduce rate of virus multiplication due to repeated exposure in their own body. In their case benefit outweighs the risk.

I didn't notice the Dr. or M.D in your profile?

Perhaps the best option would be to allow your personal physician decide how to administer treatment options.

DavidHP 

I didn't notice the Dr. or M.D in your profile? Perhaps the best option would be to allow your personal physician decide how to administer treatment options.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to promote.

Masking Freedom

Tyranny abundant

My Police State Surely COVID-19 was the impetus, but government proclamations were the instrument. And that instrument can be wielded in the future regardless if there is an actual threat or enemy if we do not learn how to restrain government overreach. We are told …

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/corona-bonds-reasons-why-germany-and-the-netherlands-oppose-the-idea.html

For a number of weeks now, some countries in the EU have argued for a debt instrument (by some dubbed "corona bonds") to help curb the economic fallout from Covid-19.

France, Italy and Spain are among the supporters of the idea.

Germany, Finland, The Netherlands and Austria oppose the idea.


I would be very interested in the views of FIO users around this - especially keen to read opposing points of view about the subject.

xplorer 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/corona-bonds-reasons-why-germany-and-the-netherlands-oppose-the-idea.html For a number of weeks now, some countries in the EU have argued for a debt instrument (by some dubbed "corona bonds") to help curb the economic fallout from Covid-19. France, Italy and Spain are among the supporters of the idea. Germany, Finland, The Netherlands and Austria oppose the idea. I would be very interested in the views of FIO users around this - especially keen to read opposing points of view about the subject.

This news article has just come out

https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-eurogroup-finance-ministers-agree-on-500-billion-emergency-fund


Nonetheless I'm still interested in opposing views on this.

Here is some news from Sweden as of yesterday that i looked at this morning. ( I am expat working in Shanghai area )

1. Social distancing in Stockholm restaurants is not working. They became crowded when sun came out 2 days ago. Prime minister was pissed of and will look in on how to close them since really there is no law that can force people to stay home.

2. Total deaths are the same as last year statistics at the same time without Corona Virus and Flue season 2 years ago it was actually much worse 2-3 times higher even thought Vaccination program was rigorous. Since this info is public Social distancing is less effective amoung younger generation.

3. Corona testing amoung sample groups indicate that 5-10% of total population is currently infected. Thats up to 1 million. This is also inline with Normal flue seasons and there is noway to stop it you can only delay it. Ongoing test will try to determain how many have already been infected. Swedish system is total all databases from all areas in goverment including hospitals can be runned together.