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Ninjatrader Margin Update for Major Events & New Announcements
Updated October 30, 2022
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Ninjatrader Margin Update for Major Events & New Announcements
October 6th, 2022, 05:59 PM
New York, New York
Experience: None
Platform: NT
Broker: IB & NT Brokerage
Trading: ES & CL
Posts: 26 since Apr 2014
Thanks Given: 604
Thanks Received: 66
NT Brokerage
Hello,
We wanted to thank everyone for their comments.
We sincerely appreciate the feedback and want to provide an update regarding our recent announcement on margin updates around major news events.
For major economic news events, margins will be raised to 4 times day trade margins 15 minutes prior to the announcement. News events that will be impacted are reflected on our
Trade Desk Calendar . This policy will apply to new positions only and existing positions will not be affected.
We expect margins to return to day trading levels roughly 5 minutes after the announcement, based on market
volatility .
Thanks.
THANK YOU! I also appreciate you listening to us. This made my day.
Can you help answer these questions from other members on NexusFi?
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October 6th, 2022, 06:46 PM
N. California
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Hey, what'd you know! They listened to the people.
October 7th, 2022, 04:38 AM
Monte Carlo, Monaco
Legendary Market Wizard
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader 8
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Trading: Futures
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NT Brokerage
Hello,
We wanted to thank everyone for their comments.
We sincerely appreciate the feedback and want to provide an update regarding our recent announcement on margin updates around major news events.
For major economic news events, margins will be raised to 4 times day trade margins 15 minutes prior to the announcement. News events that will be impacted are reflected on our
Trade Desk Calendar . This policy will apply to new positions only and existing positions will not be affected.
We expect margins to return to day trading levels roughly 5 minutes after the announcement, based on market
volatility .
Thanks.
Thank you very much! Very happy that NT was able to find a more appropriate solution.
October 7th, 2022, 04:59 AM
Columbus, Ohio
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Trading: Futures
Posts: 409 since May 2016
Thanks Given: 196
Thanks Received: 876
NT Brokerage
Hello,
We wanted to thank everyone for their comments.
We sincerely appreciate the feedback and want to provide an update regarding our recent announcement on margin updates around major news events.
For major economic news events, margins will be raised to 4 times day trade margins 15 minutes prior to the announcement. News events that will be impacted are reflected on our
Trade Desk Calendar . This policy will apply to new positions only and existing positions will not be affected.
We expect margins to return to day trading levels roughly 5 minutes after the announcement, based on market
volatility .
Thanks.
Thanks for the update!
October 12th, 2022, 06:54 PM
Des Moines, Iowa
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Ninja Trader
Trading: 6E, CL, Anything that moves
Posts: 559 since Jun 2012
Thanks Given: 733
Thanks Received: 232
NT Brokerage
Hello,
We wanted to thank everyone for their comments.
We sincerely appreciate the feedback and want to provide an update regarding our recent announcement on margin updates around major news events.
For major economic news events, margins will be raised to 4 times day trade margins 15 minutes prior to the announcement. News events that will be impacted are reflected on our
Trade Desk Calendar . This policy will apply to new positions only and existing positions will not be affected.
We expect margins to return to day trading levels roughly 5 minutes after the announcement, based on market
volatility .
Thanks.
I did not want to complain -- but I also agree that the initial implementation was way too undefined, random and vague for us traders to correctly work with.
This one is much much MUCH BETTER.
================================
An Extra Suggestion that would be awesome as well:
Would be an update to the platform that would send us ORDER DESK UPDATES >>> TO:
Private Twitter Accounts!
Private Email Address
Telegram Account
TEXT to Phone number
Any of those would be excellent
I have a private Twitter account for trading and I have email address for trading emails only....
I used to use Telegram
I used to use Text messages as well
All of that would be excellent and powerful
--------------------------------------------------------------
Your mistake here was not the DECISION.
The DECISION to implement HIGHER MARGINS WAS AND IS CORRECT.
BUT REALLY >>> it was just the Execution of it that was wrong.
The execution should have been more defined AND also have you guys do ANY INDICATOR that you need to create or update that you need to create that would tell us of ORDER DESK updates.
I WOULD LOVE IF:
NINJA TRADER ORDER DESK had a Twitter account that we can 'subscribe to' / follow and it would just instantly give ORDER DESK UPDATES to my phone and TWEET DECK Webpage.
I think this is ultra ultra easy to implement.
October 13th, 2022, 08:49 AM
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Thanks Given: 0
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OpalDragon
I did not want to complain -- but I also agree that the initial implementation was way too undefined, random and vague for us traders to correctly work with.
This one is much much MUCH BETTER.
================================
An Extra Suggestion that would be awesome as well:
Would be an update to the platform that would send us ORDER DESK UPDATES >>> TO:
Private Twitter Accounts!
Private Email Address
Telegram Account
TEXT to Phone number
Any of those would be excellent
I have a private Twitter account for trading and I have email address for trading emails only....
I used to use Telegram
I used to use Text messages as well
All of that would be excellent and powerful
--------------------------------------------------------------
Your mistake here was not the DECISION.
The DECISION to implement HIGHER MARGINS WAS AND IS CORRECT.
BUT REALLY >>> it was just the Execution of it that was wrong.
The execution should have been more defined AND also have you guys do ANY INDICATOR that you need to create or update that you need to create that would tell us of ORDER DESK updates.
I WOULD LOVE IF:
NINJA TRADER ORDER DESK had a Twitter account that we can 'subscribe to' / follow and it would just instantly give ORDER DESK UPDATES to my phone and TWEET DECK Webpage.
I think this is ultra ultra easy to implement.
Hello,
Thank you for the feedback.
We have forwarded your suggestion regarding the notifications to our product teams.
Risk Disclosure : Futures and forex trading involves significant risk of loss and is not appropriate for everyone.
October 13th, 2022, 09:14 AM
Houston TX
Legendary Market Wizard
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TT and Stellar
Broker: Advantage Futures
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
Posts: 5,049 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 4,388
Thanks Received: 10,208
Just FYI @ES_Z22 dropped from 3627 to 3510 today in 1 minute after the inflation announcement.
That's $5850 or 53%-58% of the overnight margin requirement.
October 30th, 2022, 10:42 AM
Mansfield Ohio
Experience: Beginner
Platform: NT8
Trading: futures
Posts: 6 since Apr 2022
Thanks Given: 5
Thanks Received: 3
It sounds like this was not very well thought out and while NT can say what they want about risk moderation it smacks of an extra revenue source. The idea of having to constantly refresh the margin requirements after a news event is not practical by any stretch of the imagination. There are certainly other ways for NT to notify customers if they truly want to be customer driven.
Mich62
From
NinjaTrader Brokerage:
"
NinjaTrader has always been, and will remain, committed to being there for our traders regardless of market conditions. As your partner, our goal is to set responsible margin levels to ensure appropriate risk management is in place as our traders navigate heightened volatility related to interest rate uncertainty, ongoing geopolitical risk & other events.
Beginning Friday, October 7th, day trading margins will be increased to initial exchange margin prior to the release of key economic news announcements for any and/or all products. The temporary elevated margin requirements will remain in place until market volatility is determined to present manageable risk for our traders. Please be aware these temporary margin updates will apply to both existing positions and when entering a new position which may present significant risk to the account. You can view the full policy here.
The NinjaTrader team evaluates market conditions in real-time and if required, temporary changes to the amount of margin required for trading may be made throughout the day and for extend periods of time without prior notification. For the latest margin updates beyond those related to major events and news announcements, please visit the Order Desk Updates page which will reflect the current status of margin rates based on any temporary changes we have elected to make. "
This will have some serious consequenties and I doubt it's even workable (constantly refreshing the order desk page during news events?) for a smaller account. For trading just one MES
contract one will go suddenly from $50 to $1100. Trading just one MNQ from $100 to $1650. I am a long time NT user but this really makes me reconsider NT. I think a good
CFD broker might be a good alternative although I prefer futures. Any other alternatives?
Margin Changes for Economic News Announcements
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Edit October 7th: NinjaTrader has adjusted the rules, see
Post #19 .
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Last Updated on October 30, 2022