you could try cyclePack from Divergence Software Inc.
Divergence Software, Inc. - cyclePack Cycle Analysis Collection

"The cyclePack indicators use state-of-the-art digital signal processing techniques to extract the cycles that exist in your financial data and gauge their significance. This information is then used to project price action in the security you are charting."
However it's only coded for the eSignal platform.

ValLiant 

thanks guys those are great links and i have read through most of those on ninja regarding d9/cunparis/ehlers i look at that as more of a "price derived" cycle verses a time derived cycle ... i guess i was thinking along the lines of static time count or dynamic time count tools or indicators ... ninja has one limited tool called fib time extensions.... but i have not seen many offerings regarding time cycle counts or at least reliable ones with ninja ... there are many tools out there other than on ninja like Timing Solution or things along those lines ... but was looking for something comparable in ninja or something along these lines without having to lay down 3-17,000$ to find out if it is worthwhile ... thanks for the input ... all good stuff

I hope you do not mind my comment, I even apologize before writing the post. Now the post:


Timing Solution :


"2 dimensional astro based charting tools"

ValLiant 

..... but i have not seen many offerings regarding time cycle counts or at least reliable ones with ninja ... there are many tools out there other than on ninja like Timing Solution or things along those lines ...f

Thanks for this link!

I'll give it a read!

Actually i think it is quite plausible ...

if there are 4yr/8yr and other cycles in markets or real-estate etc... not sure why not just using a different way to gauge time would potentially reveal other cycles...so instead of using a gregorian calendar and going every X years there seems to be a low ... then just use another form of keeping time ... ie every X degrees of a planets movement ...

i am no expert on cycles yet ... just seems that its at least something worth exploring... considering the super fab results everyone gets using the tools already available to them at least your odds couldn't get worse

ValLiant 

Actually i think it is quite plausible ... if there are 4yr/8yr and other cycles in markets or real-estate etc... not sure why not just using a different way to gauge time would potentially reveal other cycles...so instead of using a gregorian calendar and going every X years there seems to be a low ... then just use another form of keeping time ... ie every X degrees of a planets movement ... i am no expert on cycles yet ... just seems that its at least something worth exploring... considering the super fab results everyone gets using the tools already available to them at least your odds couldn't get worse

When using cycles, there should be some evidence, why this cycle is working. Some examples

-> window dressing end of months causes a monthly cycle
-> human behavior is responsible for weekly and daily cycles
-> planetary motion is responsible for the annual seasons, which have a large impact on agriculturals
-> the tax and holiday seasons are derived from the annual seasons

The sun is a star, so you could argue that the annual cycle is an astro-cycle. In this case I would not object. However, I doubt that other planets have an impact on our behavior. So if you go for other cycles than those that can be easily explained, I would like to see the empirical evidence first.

I am not believing in model-based cycles, rather in empirically verified cycles. Those to the front, who master fourier and cycle analysis. Please show what the cycles are.

i completely (almost) agree with everything you said ... so i think the objects that most need to be paid attention to would be the Sun and the moon .... but not ruling out other planets however i think there influence might not be as easily noticeable ...

i would take it a step further than simply end of the month window dressing...
the reason i would choose the sun and the moon is they seemingly are the objects that have the biggest noticeable emotional affect on our planet ... and since a large part of market movement seems to be emotionally driven or at least that is what we are taught ... and from experience i can say i have gotten emotionally involved in my trades from time to time

so measuring things that affect the emotions seems like a good start ... for example the energy/magnetism that effects the earth ie solar storms/solar flares etc i think will have a subtle effect on emotions ... so maybe graphing those would be a good start---

Rather than analysing data I would try to find some papers on research of geomagnetic effects on the stock market. Found a working paper on Geomagnetic Storms and the Stock Market published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

May be we can use magnetic USB detectors and then transmit the signal to an indicator to predict volatility.

this is not really the path i was intending the thread to go down ... was just looking for some good time cycle tools for ninja ... didn't want it to turn into a debate about astronomy ... but i think if a strategy is based off of something astronomical then for sure it is empirical ... not sure why that word is thrown around as if something based off of astronomy is not empirical .... there is a big difference between astronomical work and fortune telling.

the first being based off of the same empirical evidence that puts people on the moon (of course killed a few chimps and people along the way)... and the later i dont have any experience with.

Should have not used the timing solutions link especially since i have never used their software ... was just using it as an example lol ...

again if anyone has any good cycle tools for Ninja other than the Hurst/Fourrier path ... would really enjoy hearing .... if you have found out actually how to use Hurst/Fourrier/Wavelets successfully then that would be a great read as well ...

When in doubt astronomy pops up in trading discussion...not sure why.
Personally d9 is the best I have seen for Ninja....IMHO.