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I keep reading this over on reddit (r/Wuhan_Flu but also other subs); both aspects:
a) that the virus contains HIV gene sequences and
b) that Fauci is responsible for funding this research over there because doing it here is illegal.
It appears that these truths are undisputed and obvious (the virus genome has been sequenced and academic papers published saying it contains HIV gene sequences), but of course it sounds like pure "crazy person" nonsense.

My question is, if theses truths are actually true, why is not one single western mainstream news source even talking about it?? No North American, no European, no Australian, no Israeli, no South African.

The information - gene splicing - has been known since January
The illegality of GAINS research - since March

Fauci is a bad person with strong political connections
MSM is controlled by MS money who controls politics

Money does evil things for more money and more power

One needs to broaden ones reading sources/research if one wants the truth.

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Your question should not be
"If these things were actually true....

Rather
"Why is the truth concealed ....

The implied assumption in the first is that you are getting the truth and the motivation of MSM is the truth and that if it isn't in MSM then it can't be true.

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One positive step at a time, by one team of scientists, one of numerous teams around the world.

"University of Queensland researchers spearheading the development of a COVID-19 vaccine have presented the final results from their animal model tests, showing their vaccine is safe and produces a good immune response, and can be manufactured in large quantities once finalised......."

I hope the link works:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/uq-vaccine-safe-effective-and-can-be-mass-produced-researchers-say-20200825-p55p8u.html

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@guidoisot I have just deleted the post containing a link pointing to a rogue website.

This is not EliteTrader or another one of those online communities where the weaponization of fake news for political purposes is welcome.

I don't mind that people have different opinions about anything but when it comes to health issues I am not going to be a silent participant while people (whether unwittingly or not) contribute to the spread of misleading information.

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I'm not a scientist, but a quick scan of these pages suggests that many folks don't even understand how science gets done.

In layperson's terms, it's with the following process:

1- have a theory
2- test the theory
3- write up your results
4- share your results in what's called a 'preprint'
5- they will be checked by other scientists in what's called the 'peer review' process
6- if it passes 'peer review' your results are published in a journal
7- your results are then assumed to be fact, until and unless anyone else comes along later and somehow (this is rare) either finds a mistake that everyone missed, or builds on your conclusion(s).

Science is objective, and has relied on crowdsourcing for centuries before that was even a word. Although the crowdsourcing that science uses is one of an extremely accomplished crowd.... you have to be a scientist to be part of the peer review process. And scientists love nothing more than finding mistakes and holes in their peers' work because it makes them look good.

You just make yourself look silly if you link to a forum, a social media post, or a .pdf, that claims to contain facts, if they have not been through the accepted peer review process.

Like any process, it is not perfect, but it's VERY close to perfect and it's the basis to pretty much everything in our world; the technology we use, the healthcare we depend on, the food we eat, what we know to be true and untrue. So please don't now link me to the very odd occasion where it's gone wrong; outliers are called that for a reason.

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Interesting numbers from the CDC. Only 6% of the deaths were caused by COVID-19 by itself. The other 94% had underlying health issues or were older Americans.


Here is the link to the CDC statement: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm



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Interesting numbers from the CDC. Only 6% of the deaths were caused by COVID-19 by itself. The other 94% had underlying health issues or were older Americans.


Here is the link to the CDC statement: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

...And here's the link to today's counter statement of Dr. Anthony Fauci:

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/09/02/dr-fauci-debunks-theory-of-low-cdc-coronavirus-death-tollsays-us-has-over-183000-covid-19-deaths.html?utm_campaign=cityfalcon&utm_medium=cityfalcon&utm_source=cityfalcon

So, IMO it's really getting harder and harder to recognize what is right and what is wrong...

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...And here's the link to today's counter statement of Dr. Anthony Fauci:

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/09/02/dr-fauci-debunks-theory-of-low-cdc-coronavirus-death-tollsays-us-has-over-183000-covid-19-deaths.html?utm_campaign=cityfalcon&utm_medium=cityfalcon&utm_source=cityfalcon

So, IMO it's really getting harder and harder to recognize what is right and what is wrong...

This statement is very misleading.


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White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci confirmed on Tuesday that more than 180,000 people in the U.S. have died from Covid-19. Fauci’s comments come after some have claimed a new CDC update indicates only 6 percent of the nation’s total reported Covid-19 deaths were actually from the virus, and the remaining percent died of “other serious illnesses.”

Not surprising though coming from the MSM. The actual report says 6% of the people had COVID-19 listed as the cause of death on their death certificates and nothing else. The other 94% of the people COVID-19 and another, sometimes multiple, causes of death listed on their death certificate. If you look at the causes of deaths listed you realize the vast majority of these people had underlying health conditions which combined with COVID-19 caused them to succumb to the virus or the virus just happened to be present in their system at the time of death. Think heart attack or drug overdose.

As a numbers guy, you realize the chances of dying from COVID-19 by itself is not likely if you are healthy just as the dying from the flu is not likely if you are healthy. Not to say it will not happen, case and point the 6% who did die, but it is highly unlikely.

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This statement is very misleading.



Not surprising though coming from the MSM. The actual report says 6% of the people had COVID-19 listed as the cause of death on their death certificates and nothing else. The other 94% of the people COVID-19 and another, sometimes multiple, causes of death listed on their death certificate. If you look at the causes of deaths listed you realize the vast majority of these people had underlying health conditions which combined with COVID-19 caused them to succumb to the virus or the virus just happened to be present in their system at the time of death. Think heart attack or drug overdose.

As a numbers guy, you realize the chances of dying from COVID-19 by itself is not likely if you are healthy just as the dying from the flu is not likely if you are healthy. Not to say it will not happen, case and point the 6% who did die, but it is highly unlikely.

Robert

Well....to be honest, I can't agree nor contradict your thesis just because I haven't the complete insight into all necessary statistical data as well as all the hard facts...and I honestly think NO ONE around here has, while too many different authorities and experts outbid each other with theories and 'truths', not only in the US but in other countries as well.

So I wouldn't dare to state that my knowledge of ALL facts and data is even almost 'complete'...therefore I try to extract the available information as best I can in order to form my opinion.

And IMHO this is the right of everyone as well as drawing his own conclusions in this confusing (and sometimes misleading) mass of 'information', which sometimes appears more than difficult...

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The receptor-binding motif of SARS-CoV-2 Spike cannot be born from nature and should have been created through genetic engineering.

The Spike proteins decorate the exterior of the coronavirus particles. They play an important role in infection as they mediate the interaction with host cell receptors and thereby help determine the host range and tissue tropism of the virus. The Spike protein is split into two halves (Figure 3). The front or N-terminal half is named S1, which is fully responsible for binding the host receptor. In both SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 infections, the host cell receptor is hACE2. Within S1, a segment of around 70 amino acids makes direct contacts with hACE2 and is correspondingly named the receptor-binding motif (RBM) (Figure 3C). In SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2, the RBM fully determines the interaction with hACE2. The C-terminal half of the Spike protein is named S2. The main function of S2 includes maintaining trimer formation and, upon successive protease cleavages at the S1/S2 junction and a downstream S2’ position, mediating membrane fusion to enable cellular entry of the virus.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/rogue-chinese-virologist-joins-twitter-publishes-evidence-covid-19-created-lab

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