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frank25
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Hello guys,

I hope you all are doing fine.

I want to learn how to trade mainly on the order flow. My goal is to be an order flow scalper.
I have the jigsaw daytrader tool available to me to use. What trading instruments do you recommend that i focus on? treasuries such as (ZB, ZF, ZN)? s&p futures? Maybe something that a beginner can follow the order flow easily at first? if its something that has an order flow that moves too fast, prob not a good idea for a beginner to start on that? idk please give me some recommendations?

Also is this path that i am trying to follow a good trading path? is order flow scalping here to stay or will it be completely obsolete in the near future and i would be wasting my time now?

Let me know your thoughts please. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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frank25
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how are you posting something that is completely unrelated to my question here?

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Hey there. Well, there's a lot to unpack with your question. I know that you believe it's a simple question, but, it really isn't.

What you're really asking are these questions:
1)"Can I find an edge with order flow?" The answer is yes.
2) "Can I build a process that enables me to execute consistently with order flow?" Again, yes.
3) The third question, and probably the hardest, "Do I have the mindset to become a consistently successful trader using order flow?" That's more difficult for someone else to answer.

No matter WHICH edge / system / approach you choose, you will have challenges in your journey. So, pick one that suits you. Everything has pros and cons.

Order flow is great for short term scalping. When you're good with OF, you can make small profits consistently. There are also some really great learning resources, especially for Jigsaw. However, looking at OF sometimes causes you to lack context about what's happening in the market. This context may result in having you're trades blown out by sudden, seemingly unexpected volume shifts. You can counter this by coupling order flow with an approach that provides you more context around bigger moves. I'm a fan of auction market theory for this (Market or Volume profiles).

Best of luck.

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frank25
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thank you very much for your answer. very helpful

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