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Calming Trading: From Scratch to a Cake

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Calming
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Interesting that you mentioned playing a game. Some compare trading to Rock-Paper-Scissors, like here,

Rock Paper Scissors ? A Trading Analogy!

The main takeaway is to guess what your opponent is thinking and play/trade accordingly. Here is a concluding paragraph,

"So, examine your trading approach. Whether it's based on fundamental or technical or quantitative or astrological or any other means of analysis, ensure you consider the fact that the market exists because traders make trading decisions. It's not about the technicals or fundamentals. It's about knowing what your competitor is thinking."

When you think of trading, what games and analogies come to mind?


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The main thing I would say is that it is a skill more than it is theoretical knowledge. It is more like playing a physical game than solving equations.

It's like any skill: you can only develop up to a certain point without practice. More practice is better.

Bob.


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When it comes to listening to advice, a person can make two mistakes: listen to everything and listen to none. I am very grateful for the time and effort that you and others here put to help me and other rookies out. Everyone can decide for themselves how much to heed any advice. I can speak for myself that I have benefited greatly.

Curious, where is the golden ground between finding a great setup, "chasing a mirage", and draining one's account? How do traders identify if an entry is worth it? Not all trades are successful, and a trader needs to be okay with that. Yet, there should be something in place to avoid trading every candlebar. What would you say?

You know your entry is worth it if it is part of a back tested trading plan that has proven to be profitable. There should be no guesswork. You issue is that you don't currently have a back tested trading plan...so where do you get one ? For me, it was getting lucky finding someone who traded for a living that was willing to spend time working with me....at significant cost of course. After a few years of screen time I eventually was able to put a trading plan together of my own that suits my style. I would suggest looking for a mentor on this site or look at reviews on trading rooms on this site to see if you can find something. There is no doubt that if you put the work an effort in to this that it will pay off for you...you just have to be patient and understand you have a long road ahead.

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Sometimes I wonder how my trading would change if I were under certain types of pressure, like your example. Turns out to be a good way to motivate oneself.


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What if you had a gun to your head and you HAD to profit over your next 20 trades?

What would you do differently?

Why aren't you doing this NOW?
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The only condition is that you must stick to your risk and money management limits.

You've got 20 trades to show a profit.


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Had one okay-trade today. Saw a triangle continue to develop on M240 and got in. Got out too early because the price hit twice the same R-level.

Done trading for today waiting for the triangle to pop-up.





Feedback and thoughts are welcome.

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Calming View Post
When you think of trading, what games and analogies come to mind?

I was actually thinking in terms of any activity that requires skill more than abstract knowledge. Many things actually fit that description: any sport, and also playing any musical instrument, or solving crossword puzzles, or driving a car. For that matter, solving equations or any other abstract activity is also partly a matter of a certain skill, acquired by experience.

My point is to focus on action, not knowledge. Knowledge has its place in skill development, but a skill is an acquired ability to do something, and takes practice.

That's all I meant.

Bob.

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Hi,

A not so bad trade and a mistake trade,



Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

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Hi,

A not so bad trade and a mistake trade,



Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Trade 1 was a good trade but you can't immediately exit your trade on the first down bar Yes, you exited at a profit but your exit was to early. Unfortunately, there would have been no way you could have held this trade without getting stopped out for a small loss even if you held your stop a few ticks below the swing low at 2736.25.

Trade 2 was a sell directly into a price that will test as support at 2744.50 which quickly rejected and stopped you out.

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Trade 1 was a good trade but you can't immediately exit your trade on the first down bar Yes, you exited at a profit but your exit was to early. Unfortunately, there would have been no way you could have held this trade without getting stopped out for a small loss even if you held your stop a few ticks below the swing low at 2736.25.

Trade 2 was a sell directly into a price that will test as support at 2744.50 which quickly rejected and stopped you out.

Trade 1: I see what you are saying. I both dislike and like exiting early on this one. I dislike because it was too early. Each swing should have at least two legs. But, I was thinking it could be the second leg already. I like it because that big doji would sweep me away.

Trade 2: was expecting a reversal. In theory, should I have entered below that S&R level at 2744.25? Even then that doji would give me a bad ride. Would you say there was a better entry point?

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You are, absolutely, 100%, focusing on the wrong parts of trading. Basically the entry with a few other things thrown in...(ie backtesting, huge can of worms, requiring a skill set all it's own)

It's late and the easiest thing for me to do ...because I want to go to bed.... is to post videos.... Please watch them 100 times each.....

Focus only on the aspects outlined in this video....


Focus only on what Mr Douglas tells you to at the end of this video below....




I guess I will keep posting these video forever.........

Godspeed my friend, Godspeed......

Ron

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@Blash

Ron,

I do not think that anyone would argue against that traders get out too early or that trading is a way to learn about self. The question is, how to do it? Are his principles available somewhere in a concise form? I am willing to learn.

A quick search brought up the following. Do you endorse?

https://theforexguy.com/mark-douglas-trading-psychology/

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