Regardless of what was said, how it was said, how it was interpreted, trust issues or no trust issues. All I read is Emmett wanting you to prove that you traded your software on a real account making real money. That can only be via redacted trading statements that can be linked back to real trade signals that your indicators foretold the user to take.

I don't think it gets any simpler than that. It's like you verbally telling the tax man you have paid your taxes, only for the tax man to say you haven't. So you prove it with a copy of your verified tax return.

Upload your statements to Dropbox and provide a public link and then all this goes away and Emmett will probably give you a 5 star review. Random Joe Blow making a comment on Emmett's thread saying how great the indicators are means nothing.

Proving with hard evidence means more business for you, more income. Winner, winner.

Please don't promote yourself here by linking to the statements as it would violate the forum rules, but there are a number of ways for you to validate yourself outside of this forum.

So don't dance around with a response here. My question is, are you going to provide proof (outside of this forum) with trading statements (not an Excel spreadsheet) - your real broker statements - that can be matched to your software signals?

Put them in Dropbox and provide a public link on Emmett's blog. If you do that, boom, all this bad feeling I see out there goes away. A very, very simple fix.

I don't think they have to prove anything here. They market a product. They publish their phone number. If you are considering the product, call them, ask every question and ask for every shred of detail you need in order to make your purchasing decision. If you get it, great - buy the product. If you don't get it, don't buy the product. Asking a vendor to come here and prove something will likely lead nowhere due to the fact that almost anything (including posting brokerage statements) would be considered marketing and thus a violation of forum policies. At least that's the way I understand it. Good luck.

Does it sound like I am interested in this product from my writing? Not in a million years. I am just saying that with a very simple fix, all this goes away.

I stated that they should do all of this outside of this forum, which was clearly written in my post.

No - I only work with people that I trust. I don't trust Mr. Moore.

On every occasion and at every opportunity we were lied to, misled, and treated like vermin. I explained to Mr. Moore that my personal trading record (we trade our own funds using our own systems derived from the software) wasn't proof positive that the method works - as he couldn't verify if I was actually using my system as outlined in the reviews.

I sent 5 customers to him who were willing to provide their account results. As this doesn't tie in with his business model (he can't get a percentage of a sale that was already made), these customers were ignored. Ultimately Johnny, we teach (as is taught here at BMT/IO) that trading is a personal journey - and no 2 customers use the software the same way. By referring customers to him, I wanted the community at TS.org to see what their experiences as an end user would be as opposed to someone like me who sees the signals day in and day out for 7 years. This was rejected.

We've been told just now that our customers would be allowed to post their results on the page. As of now (3 hours later) those posts haven't been approved......We'll see.

Thanks for your interest and involvement John. If you want to connect off forum, let me know.

M

ALL posts were approved as far as I can see. I guess mr moore is not always at his desk and sometimes it might take a few hours for him to review posts.
Did you send your statements showing your trading? He has promised to rewrite the review if you do. If would surely attract many customers if your had a proven trading record.

I think the silence over these last months is proof enough, is it not?

I will remove myself from this thread.

Some posts I made a while back were removed and in hindsight rightly so. My aim was to get some honest accountability provided from the vendor, but my angle was probably offside.

For all the traders whom stumble across this thread or any other thread for that matter with reference to a vendor, be diligent and do your homework.

As part of your vetting process you should verify any vendor's claims. Requesting vendor's redacted trading statements is perfectly reasonable for a system you are looking to purchase. There is no CFTC ruling or law that states a vendor cannot supply this. All personal information can be redacted.

If the vendor cannot supply or won't supply, then they lose your business. If they don't trade their own system then start asking more questions. If they refer you to testimonials of other "satisfied" traders, you will never know how independent these "satisfied" traders really are. So stay frosty every step of the way.

If @Big Mike feels the need to remove this post, then sobeit. I will now bow out of this thread, but in the future I hope to see some real reviews by real traders of this system.