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Has tradovate changed after the ninja buy-out?

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San Diego, CA
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader / Tradovate
Trading: Futures / 0dte
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I just recently this year got into futures (from stocks and options). I've been doing a few prop trading firms and now ready for my own personal accounts. I saw lots of people used to really like Tradovate, but has any of that changed now after the buyout?

It lools like the margins are the same, and Ninja just copied their web UI for their ninja site. Should I stay away from the new Tradovate for personal accounts?

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Take my comments with a grain salt: My reply to your Query:

Nothing I have found is perfect:

I use ThinkorSwim for analytics.. giving me access to data feeds on top of the futures such as tick,advance decline, and other self designed indicators.
It is the "conceptual map I trade from. But, the actual trades I place on the Tradovate CME platform. presently.
Fyi: I have found that no matter what futures site you are using you are looking at the raw actual unfolding price discovery point at any given time:
it is like the very end of the hose of a massive flow of crossing forces of market orders being executed either directly or preset bids and asks either lowering (bids) or asks(lifting) the price. Whatever filters, domes, order flows, grids, etc endless overlays you are convinced give you an edge over other traders that you are not able to place into, say Tradovate ,that you can an NinjaTrader that you are willing to bet your money on, well then you should move on to NinjaTrader in that case.
As for myself, I have examined dozens of addon software (as paid or free)for NinjaTrader programs for order flows.. blah blah blah.. I have yet to pay one penny for any of them, as they are a mindfield of packaged programs build by others with claims that they have found useful executable concepts for navigating the market successfully.. I cannot sayif others have used them to consistently profitably trade. I do my own coding and mapping as I have my own reception of sense impressions,of thinking about numbers, all of which form sequences, which call forth other sequences, each of which calls forth another sequence.This process, I have come to understand as useful, but it is not yet "thinking". But when many such sequences turn up certain pictures, then precisely by such consistent return in many combination of sequences, when this certain picture-a pattern-shows up- in that it provides a connection, a confluence of threads connecting such sequences (burst of buying and selling), then it becomes an organizing element for such sequences in that it connects the sequence-in themselves unrelated to each other. This element then becomes a tool, a concept.

Ok. Lots of words up to Now: Bottom line: the Market is not a chart. A chart- any chart is a map, not the territory..
I do not buy other people's or organizations maps unless I am too lazy or unable to build my own map based on my own
impressions of the price discovery process. Therefore it is not an issue for me.

I don't care what Futures' platform I use as long as it is accurate and true with minimal latency.

Best wishes

PS. Anyone that has a comment about Latency and which if any sites and how to reduce Latency I welcome.
May you all be well

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Dallas, TX, USA
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: ThinkOrSwim
Trading: Futures + Stocks
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I ditched Tradovate for TradeStation shortly after the merger because they had four glitches/outages/issues in the middle of the pit session in a two week span - only one of those four was around a news event. It was bad enough that another trader I know was on that day, lost access for an hour, called Tradovate and couldn't get them to close his position, then came back and found that his OCO hadn't triggered and he was down 25 points on the /ES (on one of the non-news days, just normal market volatility)

If they've fixed whatever was going on there, it's probably fine. Low latency, good fees, decent tools if you use them, and a lot of other traders who can help you set things up to your liking.

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