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Trading: The one I'm creating in the present....Index Futures mini/micro, ZF
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My bad, I apologize.....I was just honing in on one part of what you were speaking about.....What I was trying to say was I do not think NT8 is "is so hardware intensive".... well it is when running on a weak system.... which to me means one doesn't have the correct tools for the job. Carpenter with only a hand saw. Painter, only a brush...no rollers no sprayers....
As I said, I push it hard with many Charts (most with 1000 days loaded) and Market Analyzers and my CPU is very low.
I guess the leased server has weak hardware, not enough RAM for what you need etc etc???? But I can't really tell if you actually have run it on this "leased server" or not.
Now if you are referring to NT7 yes it is very slow only uses one core and why even use it when NT8 is here and light years ahead of it........................
I don't think NT8 use much resources at all. I let Microsoft Windows Search Indexer run and it is almost always using more CPU between 3 - 14% and NT8 stays around 4 - 6%.
Ron
...My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy...
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Completely agree with you, Ron. The only time with my relatively limited experience I have really had problems with NT8 is when debugging using Visual Studio. When restarting the debug session several times in VS, during the same NT8 session, NT8 would just randomly crash (I guess it isn't random underneath the hood) and disappear. Other than that I have found NT8 to be vastly superior in terms of stability/robustness and performance during runtime than NT7.
The graphical quirks, crosshair etc can be fixed as follows.
1. bring up NVIDIA control panel
2. select manage 3D settings
3. select program settings
4. select program to customise, Ninjatrader 8 64bit
5. select preferred graphics card, high performance NVIDIA processor.
Do the same for global settings, and then you should be good to go. Crosshair etc much smoother.
Well i have finally come completely undone. I was sim testng a new strategy i had coded up when i got the first error, and then the second came as i was setting up a portfolio of strategies to run on my SMSF (similar to a 401k).
Since then i have deleted every shred of NT8 and re-installed it, deleted my database and restarted....
I had a backup file saved and have restored that twice and then copied out elements of that.
I really don't know how much longer i'll do this. I think i'll switch to Tradestation for my own coding and may swap all my current strats to TS or MC.
I'll just use NT8 for some descretionary trading from time to time.
Hi iq200.... I believe the issue with running VS and crashing NT is that NT needs control over all of the applications under its control. (note: If your AV software takes control of the NT stuff it may crash as well.) Using the NT version of the editor exclusively will avoid the crashes. I am starting to use VS a little more now and trying to find a way around the issue.
Thanks for your reply Bob. Having worked as a software engineer developing multi tier .Net applications, I am not entirely convinced of your argument. I think the problem could be due to the way a NT8 component is compiled through VS i.e. pressing Save in VS ... and then the component dynamically loading in NT8. There could be something not accounted for in this process. The point is, when you attach to the NT8 process under VS, VS should gain complete control over NT8.
Thanks Iq.... you are far more experienced than I am... I am a lowly hack. What I wrote was derived from a NT tech a few years ago when NT7 was crashing a lot on me. If you find a way to use VS on NT8 without crashing
NT, please let us know.
Have spent days proving to ninjatrader that in some cases during an automated strategy stop losses are immediately cancelled when there is no reason for them to be. I repeatedly asked Ninjatrader to make people aware of this as it could obviously have serious implications for traders, they did not do so. Ninjatrader also could not explain how this got through internal testing.
NT kindly made me an offer I couldn't refuse to return to NT8, so I have - the ATM / chart trading is still by far the best out there imho - but I must say I find I have to tip-toe around any changes I make to my charts, or the program seizes up / crashes. Sometimes this happens out of the blue, but mostly it's when applying a template, so I'm simply rebuilding any new chart now, rather than use a template (my charts are very basic, with few indicators, typically CurentDayOHL, Pivots, a couple of vertical timeline markers & the horizontal price line. I run a total of 8 charts, shortest M15, longest H8 : I've never had such a simple setup (no DOM, Market Analyser, strategies etc).
I still clear the data cache, but usually only every weekend. I rarely send reports of these problems, because although NT Support are great, responsive & friendly people, I'm fed up doing so.
Maybe my i5 6GB laptop is no longer up to the task, but MT4 sure ran without a glitch.
Edit : I should add that this situation has me very disciplined in saving workspaces every time I make a change !
Update : I carried out all the Black Viper "Safe" tweaks a week or so ago, since which time NT8 has been running MUCH better. As in MUCH, MUCH better.... no idea why, but long may it continue.