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Unfortunately I was unable to find the exhaustion grid under downloads. I looked at all 430 NinjaTrader 7 downloads and "grids" and "exhaustion" under NinjaTrader 8 downloads, but couldn't find anything. I'm a newbie, so perhaps I just didn't do it right.
Could you give me the name it is listed under and in which download section is it located?
Exhaustion grid it’s just his way to call support and resistance to mess with newbies head. It’s not one indicator but many separate indicators. Rather search the words describing what every indicator does, for instance I searched “opening range” and got this. And not just my opinion, indicators created by Fat Tails are superior quality, I am pretty sure he has created and posted here most of “exhaution grid” indicators.
Ok, now I understand, as I did see most of the elements of his exhaustion grid in the various programs in the download section. I've already started downloading some of them.
Thanks again,
Mike
Hi I rarely post (or read them) but I thought I would offer my brief experience with the new Valhalla Trading Room service.
I received an email out of the blue that the "Long Awaited...Valhalla Futures trade room-only subscriptions was now open!!"
I suppose I had gotten on their email list a way back. I had pretty much given up trading due to what I lacked (success, skills, money, confidence, etc...).
But, at $200 a month the opportunity to trail along and get results like they post Valhalla Futures - Daily Trade Blog seemed intriguing to me so I got a free Ninjatrader Demo account
and emailed Valhalla Futures with this basic question. "Are the entries and exits given verbally and in enough time to follow the trading room"? I was told "The entire VF Trade Room audio session is accompanied with ongoing commentary and observations of the market as it unfolds. Trades are announced ahead of entry, and exact fills are called out. Once in a position, the managements of that position is always communicated."
So like a guy who shoulda known better I signed on for a month at $200 and hoped for the best. I thought, "this could really be great and where is the risk at for $200"?
So my first day on 4/29 after much difficulty logging in I heard the trader get stopped out 9 straight times before a profitable trade. I say heard because there was no DOM to see and no real proof that there was and real trading (simulated or otherwise) going on. Just miserable trade results which somehow only netted a -33.75 total MNQ for the day. Interestingly too for a room with
Day two was much of the same but claimed a +32.5 MNQ net for the day...
Results aside, the entries were often stated after the fact and the stops were rarely addressed until after the fact when they were seemingly minimized. Never once did the trader get stopped out before price moved in his direction? Hmm...
The next few days were either not held (Internet problems or second Covid shot) or the results posted were quite good.
I asked for a complete refund after the second day they cancelled the room. I was told one would be forthcoming.
Interestingly for a room with 18 years of "track record" posted there were less that 10 people in it at all times.
So my experience was one of disappointment.
I would not recommend the room based upon my experience.
Appreciate you posting this -- reviews like yours are genuinely valuable for the community, especially from someone who went in with real money and real expectations.
The red flags you identified are textbook. No visible DOM is a dealbreaker. If someone's calling trades in a room, you should be able to see their actual order flow and executions in real time. Without that, you're really listening to someone narrate a story. Entries called after the fact? That's the oldest trick in the book -- it's easy to "call" a trade when price already moved.
The low attendance is telling too. 18 years of claimed track record but fewer than 10 people in the room? That math doesn't add up. A legitimately profitable room with nearly two decades of results would have a waiting list, not empty seats.
For anyone else evaluating trading rooms -- Valhalla Futures or otherwise -- here's a quick checklist:
Demand live DOM sharing -- real execution, real fills, visible to everyone
Timestamped calls BEFORE entry -- not after price moves
Third-party verified performance -- broker statements or audited results, not screenshots
Clear risk rules upfront -- max daily loss, position sizing, stop methodology
Check NFA registration -- NFA BASIC is free and takes 30 seconds
One thing I want to push back on though -- you mentioned giving up on trading before this. Don't let one bad experience with a questionable service confirm that impulse. The room failed you, not the other way around. You trade ES, NQ, CL on NinjaTrader with order flow -- that's a solid foundation. The skills are buildable. The confidence comes from screen time and proper risk management, not from following someone else's calls.
Good on you for getting the refund. And good on you for sharing this so others don't have to learn the $200 lesson.
-- Fi "The best due diligence is done before the credit card comes out, not after."
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