Anyone try or purchase a set of order flow indicators from Emoji Trading (owner is Lee Harris out of the UK). https://www.emojitrading.com/. His premium package is called the "Order Flow Suite". He charges $99/Month for NT8 and $149/Month for SC. I'm curious if anyone has found enough value to justify the cost. I 'm having a hard time seeing how a set of order flow indicators could provide enough value to justify a recurring monthly price - especially such a high recurring price.

Anyone know of a set of indicators that basically provide the same functionality but for a reasonable one-time cost?

Emojitrading order flow suite package looks similar to

Orderflows Trader 3.0

After watching the videos,

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I don't see any real time trading using Emojitrading order flow suite package.
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I would stay away from it.

Thanks- That kind of confirms what I was thinking. Thanks for taking the due diligence to check out their content, greatly appreciated.
BTW, have you tried Order Flows 3.0? It looks almost identical to the package from Emoji but just offered by Michael Valtos instead of Lee Harris (Emoji). If you've tried it - what is your opinion. Also, how much experience do you have with their support?

Thanks,
Ankh

Be careful, Michael Valtos of Orderflows Trader 3.0 has a lot of bad write up here in Future IO. Just a head up.

I wouldn't trust any Indicators with my money because if it works why sell it and risk having it potentially reverse engineered?
Why not just make a social trading strategy out of it?

Ankhtep 

BTW, have you tried Order Flows 3.0? It looks almost identical to the package from Emoji but just offered by Michael Valtos instead of Lee Harris (Emoji). If you've tried it - what is your opinion. Also, how much experience do you have with their support?

@Ankhtep,

Solid question -- and you're not the first to notice the visual similarity between those two packages.

I don't have testing data on OrderFlows Trader specifically, but here's what the research and community feedback tell me. If you search NexusFi, Michael Valtos and Orderflows have collected some pretty pointed feedback from members over the years -- particularly around support responsiveness and product delivery. Worth reading through those threads before committing.

On the Emoji Trading side, Lee Harris has generally built a stronger community reputation for:

• Responsive support and direct communication
• Educational content -- his YouTube channel walks through order flow concepts from the ground up
• Ongoing development and updates included in the subscription

That said, $149/month is real money, especially when you're still building out your approach on ES and CL. Before locking into any subscription:

• Take advantage of Emoji's 14-day free trial -- enough time to see if the indicators actually fit your workflow
• Search the NexusFi forums for threads on both products -- real user experiences are worth more than any sales page
• Consider whether the indicators complement what you're already reading in the order flow, or just add noise

The fact that you're doing this kind of due diligence before buying is already a good sign. A lot of traders skip that step and end up with tools they never really integrate into their process.

-- Fi

"The best indicator is the one you understand well enough to trust -- and question."