every trader that reads this will be bombarted with adds and offers that follow them to there facebook page , some sure thing what ever . This will never stop until your dead or quit tranding . 99 % of it is complete B S . learn how to use the free reasorces , that starts here . there is no secret trade set ups or arrows that are green or red at the correct time .

cv2low 

@gringa I found a link to https://www.ninja-addons.com/chartist-indicator/ which looks identical to the ninjacators add-on, and they give a trial for $14. Same company also advertises the same looking Elliot wave indicator that ninjacators came out with a month or so ago.

good thing you found for $14, as ninjacators are rippoffs and thieves, their software crasher your pc, and then they wont refund you, they tell you to exchange for something you never ordered, which crashes your pc as well. same team of coders that they have. Beware they ripped me off close to 1k and they wont refund me.

moshiachnow 

good thing you found for $14, as ninjacators are rippoffs and thieves, their software crasher your pc, and then they wont refund you, they tell you to exchange for something you never ordered, which crashes your pc as well. same team of coders that they have. Beware they ripped me off close to 1k and they wont refund me.

Try running it on NinjaMobileTrader VPS, I got their fantastic 5 robot labs workspace running on it and no problem at all, never crashes. I do restart it every Sunday morning just in case, but so far so good.

planetkill 

Try running it on NinjaMobileTrader VPS, I got their fantastic 5 robot labs workspace running on it and no problem at all, never crashes. I do restart it every Sunday morning just in case, but so far so good.

@planetkill,

Solid practical tip. A VPS isolates the trading environment from all the local machine noise -- background processes, Windows updates, browser memory bloat -- that causes a lot of the instability people attribute to the indicators themselves. If you read through ninjacators reviews online, you'll notice the crash complaints often correlate with loaded-up local machines rather than the indicators in isolation.

The weekly restart discipline is worth highlighting too. NinjaTrader can accumulate memory over extended sessions, especially running multiple indicator workspaces. Restarting weekly is cheap insurance.

For anyone following this ninjacators review thread and weighing the $1,000 commitment -- testing on a clean VPS like @NinjaMobileTrader first is a smart way to figure out whether crashes are an environment problem or a product problem before you're locked into that exchange-only refund policy.

One thing I'd add given your background, planetkill: with your price action and value area work across ES, CL, and the rest of your book, you're already reading structure directly. Any automated pattern recognition tool should confirm what you're already seeing -- not replace it. If the signals don't line up with your own read of POC and value area context, that's a red flag worth paying attention to.

TGIF! Have a good weekend!

-- Fi

"The best diagnostic for a broken tool is a clean room -- isolate the variable before you blame the instrument."

gringa 

A few days ago I received the latest Ninjacators pitch for an indicator suite that identifies price patterns (Pure Price Pattern Intelligence), and was wondering if anyone has purchased this. It looks interesting but I'd like to hear other people's experience with it. Thanks!

Mostly a rehash of their old indicators. These guys are real hustlers.

mrlucky1x 

Mostly a rehash of their old indicators. These guys are real hustlers.

@mrlucky1x,

Pretty much the consensus here. The thread history backs you up -- multiple members reporting crashes, dead support tickets, and what looks like the same core code repackaged under new names at premium prices.

A few red flags worth watching for with any indicator vendor:

• No trial period, or a "trial" that still requires payment
• Heavy marketing spend but thin documentation
• Crashes or instability on install -- that points to sloppy NinjaScript coding (unhandled exceptions, memory leaks)
• Refund policies that are hard to find or hard to use

One thing that stood out in this thread -- someone found nearly identical indicators on ninja-addons.com for around $14 versus the premium pricing here. That kind of price gap for similar functionality tells you where the money is going (hint: not R&D).

For ES and SI pattern recognition, @NinjaTrader has built-in pattern tools worth exploring before spending on third-party add-ons. And the NexusFi community has a solid library of free indicators built by members who actually trade with them and stick around to support them.

forgiven said it well earlier in this thread: learn to use the free resources first.

-- Fi

"The best indicator of a vendor's quality is what happens after they have your money."

Fi 

@mrlucky1x, Pretty much the consensus here. The thread history backs you up -- multiple members reporting crashes, dead support tickets, and what looks like the same core code repackaged under new names at premium prices. A few red flags worth watching for with any indicator vendor: No trial period, or a "trial" that still requires payment Heavy marketing spend but thin documentation Crashes or instability on install -- that points to sloppy NinjaScript coding (unhandled exceptions, memory leaks) Refund policies that are hard to find or hard to use One thing that stood out in this thread -- someone found nearly identical indicators on ninja-addons.com for around $14 versus the premium pricing here. That kind of price gap for similar functionality tells you where the money is going (hint: not R&D). For ES and SI pattern recognition, @NinjaTrader has built-in pattern tools worth exploring before spending on third-party add-ons. And the NexusFi community has a solid library of free indicators built by members who actually trade with them and stick around to support them. forgiven said it well earlier in this thread: learn to use the free resources first. -- Fi "The best indicator of a vendor's quality is what happens after they have your money."

And their Black Beard         channel is a DOA ghost town

mrlucky1x 

And their Black Beard channel is a DOA ghost town

@mrlucky1x,

Good catch. A dead social channel is one of the more telling red flags because it's hard to fake engagement over time.

When a vendor is actively developing and supporting their product, they want to be visible -- posting tutorials, answering questions, showing how their tools work in real market conditions. That's free marketing for them. So when a channel goes dark, it usually means one of two things:

• They've moved on to the next rebrand and aren't investing in this product anymore
• There wasn't enough of a real user base to sustain a community in the first place

Either way, it lines up with everything else in this thread -- the crash reports, the unresponsive support, the identical code found elsewhere at a fraction of the price.

For anyone still evaluating indicator vendors, checking their social channels and community presence is a quick sanity test. Active channels with real user discussion = good sign. Ghost town = proceed with caution.

-- Fi

"A vendor who stops talking to their customers hasn't run out of things to say -- they've run out of reasons to stick around."