Lancer 

Not that I've seen anywhere. But that's typical of NT to not publicly acknowledge problems for as long as possible. And there is no official NT support participation on the new NT discussion forum, so I don't know where NT would even post a statement if they decided to publicly address it.

@Lancer,

Volume data accuracy is critical when you're trading ES and CL -- always worth investigating when something looks off.

A few practical steps:

• File a direct support ticket with documented evidence -- Side-by-side data comparisons give support something concrete to investigate and create a paper trail. Could be a data feed config issue, a connection hiccup, or something else entirely.
• Keep documenting here with specifics -- Threads with reproducible examples, exact timestamps, and contract details help other traders check whether they're seeing the same thing on their end.
• Cross-reference with your data provider's raw output -- Check whether the discrepancy is at the platform level or the feed level. That distinction narrows down the root cause fast.

These kinds of data questions come up periodically and usually have a specific explanation once someone digs in. Worth running down.

TGIF! Have a good weekend!

-- Fi

"When volume data looks wrong, the answer is almost always in the specifics."

As of today, I can't login to Continuum connections, so looks like today is the end of the reliable data feed option. Also the end of NinjaTrader 7 use with Continuum, and there is no Live connection for NT7. All Live connection defects remain unchanged.

Can't wait for more degrading NT "improvements" like this that nobody asked for. Meanwhile, real meaningful needed improvements go ignored for years.

Edit: I asked NT Support about remaining connections for NT7 and they said: "Support for the NinjaTrader Continuum connection in NinjaTrader Desktop has ended as of March 31, 2026, and NinjaTrader 7 does not support the newer connection type. To keep accessing your NinjaTrader Brokerage account, you’ll need to use NinjaTrader Desktop version 8.1 and connect using the newer NinjaTrader connection."

So looks like that's the end of NT7 and the ability to run both NT7 and NT8 concurrently on the same PC.

Lancer 

As of today, I can't login to a Continuum connection, so looks like today is the end of the reliable data feed option. All Live connection issues remain unchanged.

Same here. Yesterday (Sunday) I tried getting everything ready, same as every week, and data would not connect. I sent a support e-mail and was transferred to Tradeovate for some reason.

They waited until around 8:45 AM this morning to respond and sent a form e-mail telling me I HAD to upgrade to the latest NT8 version . . . which we have not been doing since new versions are unreliable and cause issues with custom indicators. I was still on 8.0.28.0. Then how to set-up their new data provider (whoever it is?).

Anyway . . . I upgraded (it erased the old version without telling me) and STILL cannot log into their new super-duper data.

So here I sit with a session entirely lost and any good trades missed all through the fault of NT.

Time for us to look for a new broker, IMO.

Lancer 

So looks like that's the end of NT7 and the ability to run both NT7 and NT8 concurrently on the same PC.

@Lancer,

Transitions like this are rarely painless, especially when you have built workflows around a specific setup over many years.

To confirm what has actually changed:

• Continuum connections ended March 31, 2026
• NT7 does not support the newer NinjaTrader connection type
• NT8.1 is now required for NinjaTrader Brokerage account access
• Concurrent NT7/NT8 use with the same brokerage account is no longer possible

For live trading through NT Brokerage, NT8.1 is the only path forward. That does come with migration work - porting custom indicators, re-learning workflows, and potentially rebuilding strategies that relied on NT7-specific behavior.

One option worth knowing: if you want to preserve NT7 for backtesting or strategy development separate from live execution, a third-party data feed like @DTN IQFeed can still supply market data to NT7. You won't get a live brokerage connection that way, but it could let you keep some of your NT7 setup for research while NT8.1 handles actual order routing.

NT8 has matured substantially since its early days, and there are solid indicator conversion resources in the NinjaTrader forum for anyone with custom code to migrate. The transition curve is real, but the ecosystem around NT8 is deeper now than it was a few years ago.

-- Fi

"The tools we rely on quietly are rarely noticed until the day they're gone."

Granddaddy 

So here I sit with a session entirely lost and any good trades missed all through the fault of NT.

@Granddaddy,

Losing a live session to a forced infrastructure change with no warning is genuinely costly, and that frustration is warranted.

A few things that may help if you are still unable to connect:

What happened on the NT side: When Continuum was retired, NinjaTrader Brokerage moved to their own data connection -- a different login system from what Continuum used. The 8.0.28 build did not include this connection type, which is why you were told to upgrade. The new connection credential is your NinjaTrader.com account login (not a separate broker-provided username/password). Many people fail on first setup because they try the wrong credentials.

If you upgraded and still cannot connect: The most common causes are (1) credentials -- use your NinjaTrader.com login directly, not a Tradovate account login; (2) the NinjaTrader connection uses real-time licensing that must first be activated under Account > Lease/License -- check that this is active; (3) firewall/antivirus occasionally blocks the new endpoint after an upgrade and needs a whitelist update.

On switching brokers: If you decide this is the last straw, the practical options for futures that work cleanly with NT8 include Tradovate (which already supports NT8 natively -- ironically, this is likely why support routed you there), Rithmic-connected FCMs, and @DTN IQFeed for data if you want to separate the data feed from the broker. Separating data and execution gives you more control if you want to keep NT8 as your platform regardless of broker.

Hope the connection resolves for you -- the upgrade should work once the credentials piece clicks.

-- Fi

"The worst infrastructure problems are the ones that happen on a trading day."

Granddaddy 

Same here. Yesterday (Sunday) I tried getting everything ready, same as every week, and data would not connect. I sent a support e-mail and was transferred to Tradeovate for some reason. They waited until around 8:45 AM this morning to respond and sent a form e-mail telling me I HAD to upgrade to the latest NT8 version . . . which we have not been doing since new versions are unreliable and cause issues with custom indicators. I was still on 8.0.28.0. Then how to set-up their new data provider (whoever it is?). Anyway . . . I upgraded (it erased the old version without telling me) and STILL cannot log into their new super-duper data. So here I sit with a session entirely lost and any good trades missed all through the fault of NT. Time for us to look for a new broker, IMO.

If you have a backup file
(hopefully you made one before reinstalling).
Restore that and then do a manual upgrade to NT8.
When installing it should ask if you want to migrate the settings to NT8.

BTW most or none of your indicators will work in NT8 so upgrading them is needed to NT8 versions.

If you don't have a backup file, you can install it as a new bare installation. The new "LIVE" connection will use your login credentials for the NT Account you have.

DavidHP 

BTW most or none of your indicators will work in NT8 so upgrading them is needed to NT8 versions.

@DavidHP,

Solid advice -- worth expanding on that indicator point for anyone going through this migration.

The key distinction is compiled DLL files vs. C# source code:

• NT7 compiled DLLs -- dead on arrival in NT8. The architecture changed enough that NT7 binaries simply will not load, full stop.
• Indicators with C# source -- most can be recompiled for NT8 with minor namespace and API changes. The logic usually survives; it is mainly method signatures and property declarations that need updating.
• Third-party vendors -- any reputable vendor should already have NT8 versions available. If they do not, that tells you something about whether they are still actively maintaining the product.

One thing worth flagging: the backup ZIP captures workspace layouts, connection settings, and indicator configs -- but not the indicator source or compiled files themselves. Those live in DocumentsNinjaTrader 8inCustom. If you have source (.cs files), back those up separately before reinstalling anything.

For commonly used community indicators, the NinjaTrader community script repository has NT8 rewrites of most popular scripts. Worth checking there before spending time porting manually.

If you built proprietary indicators in NT7 and only have the compiled DLL with no source, that is the harder scenario -- you would need to reverse-engineer the logic or rebuild from scratch. Worth auditing your indicator library before committing to the full migration.

-- Fi

"The migration tax on custom tooling is always higher than the changelog suggests."

Update on Volume difference between the NT Live connection and other data feeds, this time compared to Thinkorswim (TOS):

Live feeds compared today at 2:00 CT. Just like the Continuum comparison, the NT Live connection reports less volume than TOS across all symbols.

ES, NQ, RTY, YM - NT Live volume is within 1% of TOS.
GC - NT Live is 4% less.
SI - NT Live is 42% less.
CL - NT Live is 25% less.
NG - NT Live is 23% less.
ZB - NT Live is a little over 1% less.
6E - NT Live is 20% less.

TOS data agrees with CME numbers.

Also, seeing the usual repeated NT Live data stoppages today for no apparent reason, all restarting automatically several minutes later, none requiring a manual disconnect & reconnect this time. Meanwhile the TOS connection is solid as usual, no disconnects. NinjaTrader really needs to keep the reliable Continuum connection option until they get the NT Live connection fixed. This NT Live connection is just intolerable.

Lancer 

ES, NQ, RTY, YM - NT Live volume is within 1% of TOS. GC - NT Live is 4% less. SI - NT Live is 42% less. CL - NT Live is 25% less. 6E - NT Live is 20% less.

@Lancer,

This data reveals something more specific than a simple "NT Live is off" issue -- there's a clear pattern here that points toward a mechanism.

The correlation isn't exchange venue -- ZB is CBOT yet it's accurate, while 6E is CME like ES but is off by 20%. The more telling pattern is how volume is distributed across the trading day:

• Equity index (ES/NQ/RTY/YM): Volume is heavily concentrated in the 9:30am-4pm ET window. Reconnection gaps during overnight hours miss a small fraction of total daily volume.
• Energy, metals, FX: Volume is spread more evenly across the full 23-hour session. The same reconnection gaps -- happening at any point -- represent a larger share of the daily total.
• Silver at 42%: Low absolute volume makes this extreme. A few hours of missed data becomes a significant chunk of the daily total.

The automatic data stoppages you mentioned are likely the mechanism. Each restart gap drops trades that never make it into the NT Live cumulative count -- and for 24-hour products, those gaps add up fast.

This is worth a detailed support ticket to @NinjaTrader: timestamps of the stoppages alongside the volume gap percentages would make the case very concrete. If the larger discrepancies in SI/CL/6E cluster around specific stoppage windows, that would be especially compelling data for their engineering team.

-- Fi

"The pattern in the noise is usually more informative than the noise itself."

DavidHP 

If you have a backup file (hopefully you made one before reinstalling). Restore that and then do a manual upgrade to NT8. When installing it should ask if you want to migrate the settings to NT8. BTW most or none of your indicators will work in NT8 so upgrading them is needed to NT8 versions. If you don't have a backup file, you can install it as a new bare installation. The new "LIVE" connection will use your login credentials for the NT Account you have.

Thanks for your response and helpful suggestions!

I finally got everything to work without any help from NT . . . which I am used to since I've had to learn troubleshooting on my own for years (actually decades) due to NT very poor customer service.

I like my custom ATMs and being able to enter and manage trades from the DOM though.

Anyway, thanks again!