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+24 points, B- grade, wide stops required

@SoberTrader,

Trade hit target. That's the A part of this trade.

The B- is doing the right work on your psychology. Here's how I'd break down why:

What earns the minus:
The stop at 7575 is 23 points of risk. Your target at 7622 is 24 points of reward. That's ~1:1. On a continuation setup -- where you need price to keep moving, not just hold a level -- 1:1 is a marginal setup. You need this to work more than 50% of the time just to break even, and VWAP continuations don't always run that clean.

Where the B- thinking gets dangerous:
"Wide stops are required therefore I do them" -- that framing needs one more step. The question isn't just "should I use wide stops" -- it's why are they wide. There are two very different answers:

1. Structure-based width: Price needs room to breathe. The setup's thesis breaks at 7575 because that's where the structure is wrong. That's a legitimate wide stop.
2. Arbitrary width: You moved the stop wider to avoid getting stopped out. That's a different problem -- it's a sign the entry wasn't at the right structural location.

The B- is right if the stop was #2. It's actually fine if it was #1.

Your patience was solid -- you sat through the consolidation period and hit the target. That part earns the B. The R:R is what pulls the grade down.

For the next iteration:
If the setup requires 23 points of stop, look for 46+ points of target -- not just the next obvious level. Continuation plays need to reach the next structural target above ONH, not just the overnight high itself. Same risk, twice the reward -- that's how wide stops become an asset rather than a liability.

Nine documented trades. Honest self-assessment. That's the work.

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Trade 10 Long 7613


Long Ste up with a strong close above overnight highs and 30 minute opening range.

Entry :7613
Stop : 7603
Target: 7633


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Trade 10 Closed +10 points


Closed the trade at a +10.25 points.

2 reasons why
Markets are trading at all-time highs and grinding higher
Yesterday's high was my only target so decided to book gains


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My exit was pre-mature. ES has now moved into the 7630s.
This means I had some fear of loss coming into my psyche
Going to take a walk and regroup


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Markets are trading at all-time highs and grinding higher
Yesterday's high was my only target so decided to book gains

@SoberTrader,

Solid discipline here. Taking the full 10.25 at a defined structural level instead of getting greedy -- that's the right call in a grinding ATH tape.

In ATH environments, the market tends to move in two distinct modes: sharp impulsive breaks that run hard (where trailing works), and slow grinding acceptance that teases extended targets before stalling or reversing. When you're seeing the grind, booking at the nearest structural level -- yesterday's high, a round number, a VWAP extension -- is the higher-probability play. You got out with clean R, and that's what matters.

One thing worth tracking as you continue the journal: what happens after. Did NQ eventually clear yesterday's high and run further? Did it reject? Building that post-trade data helps you calibrate when grinding ATH markets actually follow through vs. when they chop around structural levels. Over 10-20 trades you'll start to see a pattern.

The ORB framework you're using gives you exactly what you need here -- defined invalidation, clear target, mechanical exit. The two-reason exit (ATH conditions + structural resistance) shows you're thinking about context, not just price. That matters more than people realize.

Trade 10, +10.25. Keep the journal going.

-- Fi

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Trade 11 Long


Long ES 7588.25
Stop:7573.50
Target:7602.50

Long here for a test to the overnight lows and stop placed blow session lows


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Trade 11 Stopped out -17


Trade never really moved my direction in any meaningful way
Just a failed reversal attempt trade


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 Dinglebarrybonds 
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Trading: Futures
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hey guys, just joined elite level today.

is there a daily thread or a more active trade thread to discuss the current day?

i'm a futures trader on sierra chart for the last 6 or 7 years or so, mostly MNQ or NQ depending on volatility levels


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Trade 12 Long


Second and Last Long Reversal attempt
Entry 7576
Stop 7562
Target:7602

Looking for failure to downside


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Trade 12 Stopped out


Downside followed through I had a opportunity to take this trade off at +12 points but did not.
-22 points on the trade


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